>> I KEEP ASKING HER, "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?"
SHE SAID, "WE'RE COMING FOR YOU."
BUT I GET BACK ON STAGE AND AS I'M SPEAKING,
HEAR SCREAMING IN THE HALLWAY.
I THINK TO MYSELF, I THINK THAT'S THAT WOMAN.
AND THEN SURE ENOUGH THE ELECTRICITY
IN THIS MEGA CHURCH ON A PERFECTLY SUNNY DAY
WENT OUT WHILE SHE WAS SCREAMING IN THE HALLWAY.
Announcer: A DEMONIC ENCOUNTER STARTED JENNIE ALLEN
DOWN A CYCLE OF ANXIETY AND DOUBT.
LEARN HOW TO FIGHT THIS SPIRITUAL WAR
AND PUT A STOP TO SPIRALING NEGATIVE THOUGHTS. NEXT!
♪
Sheila: HELLO
AND WELCOME TO LIFE TODAY!
I'M SHEILA WALSH HERE
WITH RANDY ROBISON.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED
ABOUT OUR GUEST.
JENNIE ALLEN HAS WRITTEN
A LOT OF GREAT BOOKS
AND STUDIES BUT THIS BOOK
IN PARTICULAR,
I THINK WHAT A TIMELY GIFT
THIS IS FOR US.
IT'S CALLED
GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD:
STOPPING THE SPIRAL
OF TOXIC THOUGHTS.
PLEASE HELP ME WELCOME
JENNIE ALLEN.
WELCOME!
Jennie: THANKS! THANK YOU.
Sheila: WE'RE SO GLAD
YOU'RE BACK WITH US AGAIN.
ANY TIME YOU HAVE ANYTHING
OUT, JENNIE, DON'T EVEN...
JUST SHOW UP IN THE STUDIO
AND WE'LL DO A SHOW.
Jennie: JUST DRIVE OVER.
Sheila: BUT
THE INTERESTING THING
IN THIS BOOK IS YOU TELL US
A PERSONAL STORY
THAT'S ACTUALLY
PRETTY TERRIFYING.
Jennie: YES!
IT WOULD BE
BUT I HAVE SEEN
GOD'S POWER OVER IT.
BUT IT WAS --
IT WAS A LITTLE BIT SCARY
AT THE TIME.
SO THE STORY IS THAT
I WAS SPEAKING AT A CHURCH
IN LITTLE ROCK, ARKANSAS,
THAT'S MY HOMETOWN.
IT WAS A BAPTIST CHURCH,
AND IT WAS A LARGE CHURCH.
AFTER MY FIRST SESSION
A WOMAN STOPPED ME IN THE HALL
AND I KIND OF GOT CORNERED
ONE-ON-ONE.
AND SHE SAID, "YOU NEED
TO QUIT TALKING ABOUT US."
AND IN THE FIRST SESSION
I HAD TALKED ABOUT
THE DEMONS REJOICING
WHEN CHRIST DIED
AND THEN WHAT THEY HAD DONE.
SO SHE SAYS, "YOU NEED
TO QUIT TALKING ABOUT US."
WELL, OF COURSE,
I'M NOT THINKING TO MYSELF
SHE IS TALKING ABOUT DEMONS!
LIKE NOTHING OCCURS TO ME.
I KEEP ASKING HER,
"WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?"
SHE SAID,
"WE'RE COMING FOR YOU."
SHE WAS JUST A LOVELY LADY.
EVERYTHING IN ME WAS...
I COULD NOT PLACE
WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
AND EVERY TIME I WOULD SAY,
"WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?"
SHE WOULD SAY,
"YOU KNOW EXACTLY
WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT."
AND THEN FINALLY I WAS LIKE,
"YOU KNOW WHAT?
I THINK I DO."
AND "SECURITY GUARD,
COULD YOU KEEP AN EYE ON HER?
LIKE SHE'S MADE SOME THREATS
AGAINST ME."
AGAIN, WOULD HAVE THOUGHT
NOTHING OF IT
BUT I GET BACK ON STAGE
AND AS I'M SPEAKING,
HEAR SCREAMING IN THE HALLWAY.
I THINK TO MYSELF,
I THINK THAT'S THAT WOMAN.
AND THEN SURE ENOUGH,
THE ELECTRICITY
IN THIS MEGA CHURCH
ON A PERFECTLY SUNNY DAY
WENT OUT
WHILE SHE WAS SCREAMING
IN THE HALLWAY.
AFTER THAT I WAS LIKE,
YOU KNOW WHAT?
MINUS THE ELECTRICITY
GOING OUT
IN A MEGA CHURCH THAT
THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE,
I WOULD HAVE JUST WALKED AWAY
AND BEEN LIKE
THAT WOMAN WAS CRAZY.
BUT AFTER THAT
I TOLD MY HUSBAND THE STORY
AND WE IMMEDIATELY...
AND HE IS THE MOST LOW KEEL,
EASY-GOING GUY.
HE IS NOT RATTLED EASILY.
I RATTLE EASILY,
HE DOES NOT.
AND I CALLED HIM
AND HE WAS LIKE,
"LET'S GO THROUGH
EVERY PART OF OUR LIVES
AND MAKE SURE
THERE IS NOT A PLACE WHERE
THE ENEMY COULD ATTACK US."
WE TOOK IT SERIOUSLY.
Randy: YOU'RE SAYING
IT WASN'T JUST SOME WOMAN
WHO WAS MAYBE NOT QUITE RIGHT
BUT YOU THINK
IT WAS SPIRITUAL.
Jennie: I THINK
IT WAS SPIRITUAL.
AT THAT TIME
I FELT LIKE THE DEVIL
OVERPLAYED HIS HAND.
AND I REMEMBER
WALKING OUT OF THERE ON FIRE.
IT WAS NOT FEARFUL.
IT WAS OH, MY GOSH!
THIS IS ALL REAL.
Sheila: IT STOKED YOUR FAITH;
DIDN'T IT?
Jennie: IT STOKED MY FAITH.
THAT NIGHT I WAS WITH MY MOM
AND MY SISTERS;
THEY HAD SEEN IT HAPPEN.
I'M LIKE EVANGELIZING
THE WAITER
AND LIKE TELLING EVERYBODY
BECAUSE IT AWOKE
ALL OF THE REALITY
THAT WE KNOW IS TRUE.
IF WE BELIEVE IN JESUS,
WE READ OUR BIBLES,
WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A WAR
AND WE KNOW
THAT WE'RE A PART OF IT
AND WE KNOW THAT
THESE SPIRITUAL THINGS
ARE HAPPENING AROUND US
ALL THE TIME.
BUT IN REALITY WE'RE NOT
CONSTANTLY THINKING ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK
IT KIND OF SHOOK ME
AND MADE ME MORE SERIOUS
ABOUT THE WORK
THAT GOD CALLED ME TO DO.
Randy: YOU WERE IN
A BAPTIST CHURCH; RIGHT?
I GREW UP
IN A SOUTHERN BAPTIST CHURCH.
IT'S NOT COMMON.
Jennie: NO. NOT COMMON.
Sheila: WHAT'S INTERESTING
THOUGH, JENNIE,
EVEN THOUGH THAT REALLY
STOKED YOUR FAITH
AND MADE YOU LIKE,
OKAY I REMEMBER.
I'M IN A BATTLE.
WHAT FOLLOWED
IN THE MONTHS TO COME
WAS VERY DIFFICULT.
TALK ABOUT THAT.
Jennie: YEAH.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY
WHY I DECIDED TO GIVE
TWO YEARS OF MY LIFE
TO CREATE THIS BOOK
BECAUSE FOLLOWING THAT SEASON
FOR MONTHS -- LIKE 18 MONTHS,
I WALKED THROUGH
A SEASON OF DOUBT.
WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE FOR ME
WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
I WOULD JUST START
QUESTIONING THINGS.
I WOULD SAY TO MYSELF,
IS THIS TRUE?
LIKE YOU'RE GIVING
YOUR WHOLE LIFE TO GOD.
YOU'RE MISSING KID'S GAMES.
YOU ARE OBSESSED
WITH THE GOSPEL.
YOU ARE GIVING
YOUR WHOLE LIFE TO THIS.
IS THIS TRUE?
BECAUSE IF IT FADES TO BLACK,
IT WASN'T SOME OTHER GOD
BUT IT WAS JUST DOUBT
THAT GOD EXISTED
AND THAT THERE WAS A HEAVEN
AND A HELL, AND ALL OF THIS,
WHICH IS, LOOKING BACK
IT IS SO OBVIOUSLY NOT TRUE.
BUT I DIDN'T EVER
TELL ANYBODY.
IT WASN'T SOMETHING --
I LIKE TO SAY THAT EVIL
LOVES TO NOT BE NOTICED
BECAUSE WHAT HAD
HAPPENED FOR ME
WAS THAT IT JUST SNUCK IN
AND WAS WHISPERING
THESE THINGS TO ME
AND I JUST RECEIVED IT.
AND I BEGAN TO QUESTION IT.
AND I DON'T THINK
I MENTIONED IT.
I DON'T THINK THERE WAS
A BIG SENSE OF SHAME.
I JUST DON'T THINK
I TOOK IT SERIOUSLY.
AND I DIDN'T REALIZE
THAT OVER MONTHS,
AS I WOULD SIT AND STEW
AND JUST ALLOW THESE THOUGHTS
TO BE IN MY MIND
THAT THERE WOULD BE A TOLL.
AND THERE WAS A TOLL
OVER TIME.
Sheila: SO HOW DID THAT
IMPACT YOUR FAMILY LIFE?
WERE YOU STILL SPEAKING?
Jennie: YEAH.
IT IS INTERESTING.
MY EDITOR AFTER SHE READ
THE BOOK, SHE WAS LIKE,
"JENNIE, THIS IS REAL
AND ARE YOU SURE
THAT YOU CAN GO PUBLIC
WHEN THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE
YOU WERE HYPOCRITICAL?"
BECAUSE MY FAITH,
IT REALLY DID... I MEAN
I WAS CONSTANTLY THINKING
IN THE BACK OF MY MIND,
EVEN AS I WAS PREACHING,
IS THIS TRUE?
AND SO IT DID TAKE A TOLL.
BUT I TOLD HER THAT DAY
AND I KNEW IT,
I WAS NOT SCARED TO SHARE IT
BECAUSE I KNEW
THAT I WAS STANDING
ON THE SAME FAITH
THAT I WAS GIVEN AT SALVATION,
THAT I WILL STAND ON
ON THE DAY BEFORE JESUS;
THAT IT WAS FROM GOD.
LIKE HE GIFTED ME THAT FAITH
AND THAT FAITH WASN'T SHAKEN.
BECAUSE MY FAITH,
MY MUSTARD SEED OF A FAITH
THAT I STILL FOUGHT FOR,
THAT I STILL PRAYED WAS TRUE,
THE EVIDENCE OF THINGS
HOPED FOR, I STILL HAD THAT.
IT WAS JUST THAT
IT DEFINITELY WAS SHAKEN,
AND YET IT NEVER WAS HELD
IN PLACE BY ME.
LIKE GOD HOLDS US IN PLACE;
RIGHT?
YES, THERE IS THAT MOMENT
WHERE WE TRUST HIM
AS LORD AND SAVIOR
BUT HE PROMISES TO HOLD US
AND THAT
HE WILL PERSEVERE US.
Randy: HERE'S AN INTERESTING
QUESTION FOR YOU
BECAUSE SOMETIMES
WE'LL HAVE GUESTS,
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE IDEA
OF QUESTIONING GOD.
WE SAY IT'S OKAY.
GOD CAN HANDLE YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND SOMETIMES I THINK
IT IS GOOD TO ASK,
DO I REALLY BELIEVE?
YOU GO THROUGH TRAGEDY
AND IT FORCES YOU TO GO,
"DO I REALLY BELIEVE
WHAT I SAY I DO?"
WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THAT
YOUR ROOTS GROW DEEPER.
HOW DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN SORT OF
THAT HEALTHY QUESTIONING
AND KNOCKING ON THE DOOR
AND GETTING AN ANSWER
VERSUS AN ATTACK
THAT'S DESIGNED
TO UNDERMINE YOU?
Jennie: SO I NEVER
IN THOSE MONTHS SAID IT
OUT LOUD TO MY HUSBAND.
I NEVER SAID
WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
AGAIN, IT WASN'T SHAME,
IT WAS JUST I WASN'T
TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.
WHEN I FINALLY SAID IT
OUT LOUD TO SOME FRIENDS
BECAUSE IT HAD GOTTEN
WHERE IT WAS JUST CONSTANT,
LIKE IT WAS JUST
GNAWING ME IN THE DAY.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU'RE JUST
THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING
IN THE NIGHT AND THEN WHEN
IT BLEEDS INTO THE DAY AND
IT'S ALWAYS THERE YOU GO,
OKAY, THIS HAS BECOME
A BIGGER PROBLEM.
AND I SAID IT OUT LOUD
AND MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS,
THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING
I'VE EVER HEARD.
LIKE I DON'T BELIEVE THIS.
LIKE I DO BELIEVE GOD.
I DO BELIEVE GOD.
AND THEN THE NEXT THING
I SAID WAS, "I THINK
I'VE BEEN UNDER
SPIRITUAL ATTACK!"
WHICH IS SO OBVIOUS
BUT UNTIL I SAID IT OUT LOUD
IT NEVER OCCURRED TO ME.
I THINK THAT'S WHY
I WROTE THE BOOK.
BECAUSE HE IS A LIAR
AND JESUS IS PRETTY CLEAR
THAT HE IS THE FATHER OF LIES
AND THAT HE DOESN'T
HAVE ANOTHER LANGUAGE.
IT IS WHAT THE ENEMY DOES,
IS HE LIES.
HE SAYS THAT IN JOHN EIGHT.
SO WE'VE GOT THIS LIAR THAT
IS CONSTANTLY LYING TO US.
AND I REMEMBER BEING
IN MIDDLE SCHOOL
AND MY YOUTH PASTOR SAID,
"WE DON'T NEED TO TALK
ABOUT THE DEVIL TOO MUCH."
I REMEMBER THAT.
IT STUCK WITH ME.
AND THEN I'M THINKING LATER
AS I READ MY BIBLE,
I'M LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE.
LIKE THERE IS
DARK COSMIC FORCES
THAT ARE COMING FOR US.
LET'S TALK ABOUT HIM ENOUGH
THAT WE CAN FIGHT WELL.
I THINK THAT'S
WHAT I HAD NOT DONE.
I WANT TO JUST BE
THAT PERSON FROM THE CHURCH
THAT SAYS, HEY!
OUR THOUGHTS MATTER.
THOSE LITTLE RANDOM THINGS
THAT YOU THINK NOTHING OF,
THOSE ARE LIES FROM THE ENEMY
BECAUSE WHEN I REALIZED
I WAS BEING ATTACKED
I FOUGHT IT
COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY.
Randy: "FIERY DARTS"
THE BIBLE SAYS.
Jennie: YEAH!
I DIDN'T RECEIVE IT.
I THINK IF WE THINK IT IS
JUST OUR RANDOM THOUGHTS,
WHICH I THOUGHT
THAT'S WHAT IT WAS FOR MONTHS
THEN WE DON'T FIGHT IT.
Sheila: WHAT WAS
THE BREAKING POINT?
WAS THERE SOMETHING
THAT YOUR FRIEND SAID TO YOU
THAT SHIFTED THINGS?
AND SUDDENLY, YOU REALIZED
OH NO! THIS IS A BATTLE.
Jennie: NOT AT THAT POINT.
AT THAT POINT IT WAS POWERFUL
TO SAY IT OUT LOUD
AND I DEFINITELY
TOOK NOTE OF THAT
BUT I STILL FELT UNDER IT.
AT THIS POINT
I HAD BEEN QUESTIONING
FOR 18 MONTHS AND IT WAS,
I FELT THE WEIGHT OF THAT
RUNNING RAMPANT IN YOUR MIND.
WHEN I WROTE THE BOOK
I REALLY LOOKED AT SCIENCE
BECAUSE WHAT SCIENCE
WILL TELL US IS THAT
80 PERCENT OF OUR THOUGHTS
ARE NEGATIVE;
95 PERCENT OF OUR THOUGHTS
ARE REPETITIVE,
DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY.
SO WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO...
THE DEVIL DOESN'T HAVE
TO WORK THAT HARD.
HE JUST HAS TO WHISPER A LIE
AND LET IT RUN ITS COURSE
BY THE WAY
OUR BRAINS ARE MADE.
SO I THINK THIS IS
A PASSIVE SITUATION
WHEN WE NEED TO BE FIGHTING.
SECOND CORINTHIANS
TALKS ABOUT THAT
THERE ARE DIVINE WEAPONS
THAT HAVE THE POWER
TO DEMOLISH STRONGHOLDS.
THE VERSE OR TWO
AFTER THAT IS,
"TAKE EVERY THOUGHT CAPTIVE."
SO THIS IDEA OF WAR
IS HOW GOD, THROUGH HIS WORD,
AND THROUGH
THE WRITERS OF SCRIPTURE,
THEY'RE PRETTY CLEAR,
LIKE WE'VE GOT
TO TREAT THIS LIKE WAR.
SO WHAT EVENTUALLY
REALLY BEGAN TO SHIFT THINGS
WAS I MENTIONED IT
TO A DEAR FRIEND.
WE WERE IN UGANDA,
AND I WAS JUST TIRED.
I THINK SO MANY PEOPLE
ARE THIS WAY.
THAT THEY'VE JUST BEEN...
THEY WANT TO BELIEVE
THEY CAN CHANGE,
THEY WANT TO BELIEVE
THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE
THOSE NEGATIVE THOUGHTS
OVER AND OVER AGAIN
BUT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW.
AND I WAS JUST...
I FELT BEAT UP.
I FELT LIKE I'D BEEN ALONE
IN THE DARK WITH THE DEVIL
AND HE HAD JUST HAD HIS WAY.
LIKE JUST BEAT ME UP.
I WAS WITH ANN VOSKAMP
WHO IS YOUR FRIEND
AND I TOLD HER EVERYTHING.
SHE WENT TO WAR FOR ME.
SHE WAS LIKE,
"NOT ON MY WATCH!"
AND WE FASTED AND WE PRAYED.
Randy: OKAY YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT WARFARE
LOOKS LIKE.
Jennie: THE SERIOUSNESS
WITH WHICH MY FRIEND,
ESTHER HAVENS AND ANN VOSKAMP
TOOK IT, THEY WENT TO WAR.
AND OTHER FRIENDS PRAYED
AND FOUGHT FOR ME.
I REALLY THINK
IT TOOK COMMUNITY,
IT TOOK PRAYER,
AND THE SPIRITUAL WEAPONS
THAT THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT
IS... AND I WANT TO TALK
ABOUT MENTAL ILLNESS
BECAUSE THAT DEFINITELY
IS A DIFFERENT SIDE
OF A SIMILAR COIN HERE
BECAUSE OUR MIND
CAN FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY.
BUT FOR ME IN THIS SCENARIO,
AT THIS TIME,
NOW I'VE STRUGGLED
AT DIFFERENT TIMES
WITH ANXIETY,
CERTAINLY WITH PARALYZING FEAR
THAT COULD HAVE PERHAPS MOVED
TO A CLINICAL STAGE
BUT AT THIS MOMENT,
WHAT I NEEDED
WAS TO VIEW THIS AS SPIRITUAL
AND WE NEEDED TO FIGHT IT
IN THAT WAY.
Sheila: ABSOLUTELY!
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY
TO SOMEBODY, JENNIE,
WHO IS WATCHING SAYING,
"THAT'S JUST THE WAY I AM.
I'M ALWAYS ANXIOUS.
I'M ALWAYS THIS..."
HOW DO THEY BEGIN
TO FIGHT THIS BATTLE?
Jennie: THAT IS MY HOPE
AND PRAYER IS THAT
PEOPLE WOULD FIRST BELIEVE
THAT THEY CAN FIGHT IT.
THAT WE HAVE AUTHORITY.
IT DOESN'T SCARE ME
WHEN THAT HAPPENED TO ME
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY
I'M PRAYING MYSELF TO SLEEP
AND SAYING, GOD,
WHO CAN BE AGAINST ME?
I READ THIS VERSE
THIS MORNING:
WHO CAN BE AGAINST ME
IF YOU ARE FOR ME?
AND IF GOD,
IT'S ROMANS EIGHT,
IF GOD WOULD SEND
HIS ONLY SON
THEN WHAT GOOD GIFT
WOULD HE WITHHOLD?
HE IS SO GOOD.
LIKE HE WILL FIGHT FOR US.
I BELIEVE
HE WAS FIGHTING FOR ME.
I BELIEVE HE LET ME TASTE
THE DARKNESS SO I COULD
HELP SET OTHER PEOPLE FREE.
I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THAT.
I WILL BE DANGEROUS FOR IT.
Sheila: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT
WHEN I READ YOUR BOOK.
I THOUGHT, YOU'VE MESSED
WITH THE WRONG GIRL.
Jennie: YEAH! I'M LIKE I WILL.
OKAY, LET'S GO!
AND NOW,
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT,
I'M LIKE,
WHEN I WAKE UP I'M LIKE GOD!
WE WERE PRAYING
FOR LIKE MISSIONARIES.
IF HE IS GOING TO WAKE ME UP,
I'M LIKE WE'RE...
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET SAVED
WITH ME IN THE DARK.
BECAUSE NOW I FEEL
THIS AUTHORITY OVER IT.
SO I THINK THE FIRST THING
IS JUST REALIZING WE DO
HAVE GOD-GIVEN AUTHORITY
OVER THE DARKNESS
AND OVER THE LIES.
LIKE WE DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN.
WE CAN SAY, "NO MORE!"
SO THOSE THOUGHTS
WILL ENTER MY MIND
BUT I FIGHT THEM.
I DISCIPLINE MY MIND.
I TRAIN MY MIND.
SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
LIKE WE CAN SHIFT OUR MIND.
HOWEVER, I WANT TO ADDRESS
MENTAL ILLNESS REALLY CLEARLY
BECAUSE THERE IS
AN EPIDEMIC OF THAT
AND THERE CERTAINLY IS,
AS WE ALL KNOW,
CHEMICAL IMBALANCES
THAT NEED MEDICINE.
AND THE CHURCH HAS NOT DONE
A GREAT JOB WITH THAT
AND SO THAT'S GOT TO BE SAID.
BUT COUNSELLING AND MEDICINE
ARE GIFTS FROM GOD
AND CAN HELP YOU GET UP
TO WHERE YOU CAN BREATHE
AND BEGIN THE FIGHT.
BUT IT'S ALSO
NOT JUST PHYSICAL,
IT'S SPIRITUAL,
IT'S EMOTIONAL.
AND IT IS PHYSICAL.
SO WE'VE GOT TO FIGHT
ON ALL THE FRONTS.
SO I REALLY WOULD JUST SAY,
IF YOU HAVE BEEN STUCK
IN A PATTERN FOR A LONG TIME,
CHEMICALLY
YOUR BRAIN HAS CHANGED.
THAT HAPPENS.
AND IN SCIENCE IT IS LIKE
YOU MIGHT NEED A DOCTOR
TO HELP YOU GET TO A PLACE
WHERE YOU CAN PROCESS
THE SPIRITUAL
AND PROCESS THE EMOTIONAL.
Randy: OUR SOULS
DO AFFECT OUR CELLS.
THAT'S SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN,
AND IT IS SCRIPTURAL AS WELL.
A QUESTION,
THE IDEA OF DEMONS AND SATAN
AND ALL THAT
SCARES A LOT OF PEOPLE.
DID IT FRIGHTEN YOU
WHEN YOU REALIZED
THIS IS A SPIRITUAL WAR?
Jennie: I HAVE
SOME GREAT STORIES.
SO YEAH.
I REMEMBER WRITING,
WELL, I REALLY...
I REALLY BELIEVE THE BIBLE.
LIKE I REALLY DO.
Randy: THAT'S THE RIGHT
DIRECTION TO GO FOR THIS.
Jennie: I LIKE THAT WE WIN.
I KNOW WHAT HE'S CAPABLE OF,
YOU GUYS.
I HAVE SEEN SPIRITUAL
TIMED ATTACK
AGAINST MY FAMILY
IN WAYS THAT IS UNTHINKABLE
AND UNSPEAKABLE.
I LITERALLY CANNOT SHARE
HOW DARK AND HORRIBLE
SOME OF THE THINGS ARE
THAT HAVE COME OUR WAY.
SO I'M NOT NAIVE
WHEN I SAY
WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY.
WHEN I WAS WRITING THE BOOK,
ONE OF THE CHAPTERS,
I DON'T KNOW IF WE KEPT IT IN,
BUT I ENDED THE CHAPTER
THAT DAY, I WAS WRITING
BY MYSELF ALL DAY,
AND I ENDED IT WITH,
"BRING IT, DEVIL!"
AND I STEPPED BACK
AND I WAS LIKE,
SO WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN?
LIKE YOU JUST DON'T THROW OUT
A LINE LIKE THAT.
AND Y'ALL, IN THE NEXT HOUR,
I HAD A FRIEND TEXT ME
AND SAID, "JENNIE,
YOUR WEBSITE IS A PORN SITE.
WHEN YOU PUT IN YOUR NAME,
IT WAS A PORN SITE."
I WAS LIKE, OH, MY GOSH!
IT WAS JUST NOBODY KNEW
I WROTE THAT.
LIKE IT WAS WILD.
IT TOOK THE ENTIRE DAY
TO GET IT DOWN.
IT WAS JUST...
BUT I LOVE IT
BECAUSE THE ENEMY
HAS OVERPLAYED HIS HAND.
SO IT'S KIND OF
THAT FEELING FOR ME
OF I DON'T DOUBT
THAT BAD THINGS COULD COME
BECAUSE I PICKED THIS FIGHT.
I TOLD MY TEAM THAT
THIS MORNING.
I WAS LIKE YOU GUYS,
I WON'T BE SURPRISED
BUT I KNOW THAT GOD
WILL NOT ALLOW ANYTHING
TO HAPPEN TO US
THAT WE DON'T HAVE
THE POWER IN HIM TO FIGHT.
Randy: THE SCRIPTURE
DESCRIBES SATAN
AS A DEFEATED ENEMY.
WE NEED NOT FEAR AN ENEMY
THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEFEATED.
WE JUST HAVE TO STAND UP,
CLAIM THE AUTHORITY,
AND FIGHT THE FIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
Sheila: I'M JUST THINKING,
I WISH EVERY COLLEGE STUDENT
WOULD READ THIS BOOK.
BECAUSE I KNOW
ONE OF YOUR CHILDREN,
BUT MY SON IS AT A&M
AND DO YOU KNOW THE WAITING
TO GO AND SEE A COUNSELOR
AT A&M IS FOUR MONTHS LONG?
BECAUSE OF
STUDENTS STRUGGLING.
BUT I THINK OF THE NUMBER
OF THEM WHO ARE BELIEVERS
THAT DON'T TAKE
SPIRITUAL WARFARE SERIOUSLY.
AND DON'T TAKE SUITING UP
IN THE ARMOR OF GOD SERIOUSLY.
PARTICULARLY IN THESE DAYS,
IT'S LIKE HEIGHTENED.
WE NEED TO KNOW
WE CAN DO BATTLE,
IN JESUS' NAME.
Jennie: SO THAT'S WHAT
WE APPROACHED IN THE BOOK
IS WHAT ARE THE ENEMIES
OF THE MIND
IN OUR GENERATION?
AND SOME OF THOSE ENEMIES
THAT I FEEL...
I REMEMBER JUST PRAYING,
GOD, WHAT IS IT?
AND I WAS WALKING ONE DAY
AND I JUST PULLED OVER
WITH MY PHONE
AND I WROTE THE SEVEN ENEMIES
THAT ARE IN THIS BOOK.
BECAUSE I SEE THEM
AND THEY'RE CAUSING SICKNESS
AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW
THAT WE HATE THEM.
THEY'RE KIND OF SUBTLE.
BUT THEY'RE CAUSING
SICKNESS IN US.
SO ONE OF THEM IS CYNICISM.
Sheila: THAT WAS
AN INTERESTING ONE, CYNICISM.
Jennie: YEAH.
BECAUSE I THINK
IT'S DEFEATIST; RIGHT?
SO IF WE ARE CYNICAL
THEN WE DON'T BELIEVE
WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
WE DON'T BELIEVE
THE GOOD IN PEOPLE.
WE ALWAYS SEE THE NEGATIVE.
AND WE ALMOST
FEEL PROUD OF THAT
BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF
A BADGE OF I'M NOT NAIVE.
BUT WE'VE TURNED UNGRATEFUL.
AND THEN ANOTHER ONE
IS VICTIMHOOD.
AND AGAIN, IT IS NOT THAT
THERE IS NOT REAL VICTIMS.
IT IS THAT WE ALL
ARE IN A VICTIMHOOD CRISIS.
RATHER THAN GOING,
YOU KNOW WHAT?
AND THAT'S THE MAIN THING
I HOPE PEOPLE
TAKE AWAY FROM THIS TODAY
AND I HOPE PEOPLE TAKE AWAY
FROM THE BOOK IS
I HAVE A CHOICE.
I'M NOT SPEAKING
TO CHEMICAL IMBALANCE,
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT.
BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT,
I HAVE A CHOICE.
AND EVEN WITHIN THAT
ON A GIVEN DAY,
IT WILL HELP US
TO RETRAIN OUR MIND.
IT IS NOT THAT
THAT CHEMICAL IMBALANCE
ISN'T REAL,
BUT TRAINING OUR MINDS
IS GOING TO STILL HELP.
SO MY HOPE IS THAT EVERYBODY
WOULD READ IT AND ALMOST
JUST SUIT UP OF GOING HEY,
I'M NOT A VICTIM.
LIKE I CAN FIGHT THIS.
Randy: I THINK
WHAT YOU'VE GOT IN HERE
IS IMPORTANT, IT'S VALUABLE,
AND WHEN IT'S OVERLOOKED
WE START TO LOSE THAT FIGHT.
SO I HOPE
YOU'LL GET THIS BOOK.
IN FACT, THERE IS A GREAT WAY
FOR YOU TO GET THIS TODAY.
WE WILL SEND IT TO YOU
IF YOU ASK FOR IT
WHEN YOU HELP US
FIGHT ANOTHER BATTLE.
IT HAS A SPIRITUAL ELEMENT
TO IT AS WELL, BELIEVE ME.
BUT SHEILA, YOU KNOW
WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE WATER,
GIVING PEOPLE LIFE,
MEETING THE PHYSICAL NEEDS
SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS
THE SPIRITUAL NEED.
Sheila: I JUST GOT BACK
A FEW WEEKS AGO FROM AFRICA.
AND GOD IS MOVING THERE.
BUT AS LONG AS WE'RE ON
THE PLANET THERE IS SO MUCH
THAT WE CAN DO IN JESUS' NAME.
WATCH THIS.
♪ IT NEVER GOES AWAY ♪
♪ ALWAYS IN MY VEINS ♪
♪ I WANT TO LAY IT ALL DOWN ♪
♪ IT'S GETTING HEAVY FOR ME NOW ♪
♪ I WANT TO LAY IT ALL ♪
♪ LAY IT ALL DOWN ♪
♪ CAN'T BREATHE ♪
♪ I CAN'T BREATHE ♪
♪ THEY WANT TO TAKE IT FROM ME ♪
Sheila: THE WATERHOLE
IN THAT VILLAGE
WAS HORRENDOUS!
WE LOOKED DOWN INTO IT
AND THE WATER WAS FILTHY --
ABSOLUTELY FILTHY!
THERE ARE SNAKES
THAT GET INTO THE PIT.
IT IS JUST --
AND ANIMAL WASTE
THAT GETS WASHED IN THERE
FROM THE RAIN.
IT IS TERRIBLE!
BUT IT IS ALL SHE HAS.
MOST OF THESE MOMS THAT I MET,
THEY GET UP AT 4-4:30
EVERY MORNING TO WALK
TO THE NEAREST WATERHOLE
BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T
GET THERE IN TIME
THEN IT DRIES UP
AND THEY HAVE TO WAIT
UNTIL THE AFTERNOON.
BUT THEY KNOW THAT WHAT
THEY'RE GIVING THEIR CHILDREN
HAS THE POTENTIAL
TO KILL THEM.
THE VERY THING
THAT SHOULD GIVE THEM LIFE
IS GIVING THEM DEATH.
BUT WE CAN CHANGE THIS.
THAT'S THE THING.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT
THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO.
WE CAN GO THERE.
WE CAN DRILL A WELL
IN ENNIS'S VILLAGE
AND FOR THE FIRST TIME
IN THEIR LIFE,
THEY WILL DRINK
FRESH CLEAN WATER.
IF WE ALL DO SOMETHING, RANDY,
WE CAN CHANGE THIS.
Randy: THAT WELL
THAT YOU SPEAK OF,
IT WAS HAND DUG?
Sheila: YEAH.
IT TAKES A WEEK TO DO IT.
IT'S ABOUT SIX-FOOT DEEP
AND IT IS FILTHY.
Randy: WE CAN DO BETTER
THAN THAT.
YOU AND I CAN JOIN TOGETHER
AS WE'VE BEEN DOING
FOR SO MANY YEARS.
AN AVERAGE WELL COSTS $4800.
WE DO THESE 20 COUNTRIES
ALL OVER THE WORLD;
350 WELLS IS THE GOAL
FOR THIS YEAR.
I'M JUST ASKING YOU
TO BE A PART OF IT.
THOSE STORIES
ARE HEARTBREAKING.
IT'S HARD TO WATCH.
WE DON'T LIKE BRINGING YOU
THOSE STORIES.
BUT ONLY YOU
CAN TURN IT AROUND
WHEN YOU JOIN WITH US TODAY.
WILL YOU GIVE
FRESH CLEAN DRINKING WATER TO,
I DON'T KNOW,
TEN PEOPLE FOR A LIFETIME?
$48, THAT'S ALL IT IS.
SOME OF YOU CAN GIVE WATER
TO 30 PEOPLE, $144.
THAT'S WHAT IT COMES OUT TO
WHEN WE BOIL THE NUMBERS DOWN.
IF YOU CAN GIVE
AN ENTIRE WELL, $4800,
PLEASE DO IT!
YOU WILL MAKE
A HUGE DIFFERENCE
IN SOMEONE'S LIFE.
YOU'LL NOT JUST CHANGE LIVES,
YOU'LL SAVE LIVES,
OR MAYBE YOU'LL JUST DO
THE BEST THAT YOU CAN
AND PARTNER WITH OTHERS.
IF WE ALL CHIP IN,
IF WE ALL DO SOMETHING
WE CAN ACHIEVE OUR GOAL
FOR THIS YEAR
AND WE CAN SAVE LIVES.
I DON'T WANT SHEILA
TO HAVE TO WALK
WITH ANOTHER MOTHER
TO THE GRAVE OF HER CHILD.
WILL YOU GO ONLINE
OR PICK UP THE PHONE AND GIVE
THE BEST GIFT YOU CAN?
GIVE LIFE!
TODAY, A MOTHER LIVING IN EXTREME POVERTY
WILL DO THE UNTHINKABLE,
GIVE HER CHILDREN DIRTY, DISEASED-FILLED WATER
THAT SHE KNOWS COULD KILL THEM.
WITH NO OTHER CHOICE WHAT'S A MOTHER TO DO?
WITH YOUR HELP CLEAN WATER IS ON THE WAY.
MISSION WATER FOR LIFE IS THE ANSWER TO A MOTHER'S PRAYER
TO SAVE THE LIVES OF HER CHILDREN,
TO OFFER THEM A BRIGHT FUTURE
FREE FROM THE FEAR OF DEATH.
WITH YOUR GIFT TODAY YOU CAN HELP DRILL AND ESTABLISH
350 WATER WELLS THIS YEAR.
YOUR GIFT OF $24 WILL HELP PROVIDE CLEAN WATER FOR FIVE CHILDREN.
A GIFT OF $48 WILL HELP PROVIDE FOR TEN.
$72 WILL PROVIDE FOR 15.
AND $144 WILL HELP PROVIDE LIFE-GIVING WATER
FOR 30 PEOPLE FOR A LIFETIME.
WITH YOUR GIFT WE'LL SEND YOU PRAYING WOMEN:
"HOW TO PRAY WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY."
IN HER NEW BOOK, SHEILA WALSH SHOWS YOU
HOW TO REIGNITE YOUR CONVERSATION WITH GOD
TO BECOME A STRONG PRAYING WOMAN.
WITH YOUR GIFT OF $100 OR MORE,
PLEASE REQUEST "THE POWER OF PRAYER" BUNDLE.
THIS BUNDLE INCLUDES A COZY THROW BLANKET
ADORNED WITH WORDS OF THE LORD’S PRAYER,
A DECORATIVE PILLOW COVER, AS WELL AS SHEILA’S BOOK.
ALL THREE ARE ENCOURAGING REMINDERS
OF HOW THERE’S POWER IN YOUR FAITH-FILLED PRAYERS.
FINALLY, PLEASE CONSIDER A GIFT OF $1200
TO HELP PROVIDE WATER FOR 250 PEOPLE,
OR A GIFT OF $4800 TO HELP SPONSOR A COMPLETE WELL.
AND YOU MAY REQUEST OUR BRAND-NEW COMMEMORATIVE
BRONZE SCULPTURE, "A MOTHER’S STRENGTH."
PLEASE CALL, WRITE, OR MAKE YOUR GIFT ONLINE!
Ralph: I TRAVEL ALL OVER THE WORLD
AS THE DIRECTOR OF MISSIONS FOR LIFE TODAY.
I CONTINUE TO HEAR
SOME OF THE SAME STORIES -- DEATH.
WHY? SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE
CLEAN DRINKING WATER.
THESE MOTHERS WHO WANTED TO GIVE LIFE TO HER CHILDREN,
SHE WANTED TO BRING HEALTH TO HER FAMILY
BY BRINGING WATER HOME
BUT SHE ENDS UP BRINGING CONTAMINATED WATER --
IF SHE CAN FIND ANY!
AND IT BRINGS DEATH TO HER CHILDREN.
NONE OF US WOULD EVER WANT
TO BRING DEATH INTO OUR LIVING ROOM
BUT THAT'S WHAT THESE MOTHERS DID.
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
THEY DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THAT.
BUT EITHER THEY CAN'T FIND WATER
OR THE WATER THEY DO HAVE
IS SO CONTAMINATED IT JUST BRINGS DISEASE,
AND EVEN TO THE POINT OF DEATH.
SO PLEASE HELP US BRING CLEAN WATER.
LET'S DRILL SOME WELLS
THAT WILL GIVE THESE VILLAGES AND THESE PEOPLE WATER
FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
CLEAN, LIFE-GIVING WATER!
PLEASE HELP US TODAY.
Sheila: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IF THE LINE'S BUSY,
PLEASE KEEP CALLING.
LET'S DO THIS,
LET'S CHANGE THIS
IN JESUS' NAME.
FOR ANY GIFT AT ALL
YOU CAN REQUEST JENNIE'S BOOK,
GET OUT OF YOUR HEAD.
ALSO, I HAVE A BRAND-NEW BOOK
JUST COMING OUT
CALLED PRAYING WOMEN.
I KNOW YOU DON'T DO IT
FOR THE GIFTS BUT WE JUST
WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
AND WE WANT TO BLESS YOU.
SO PLEASE LET'S DO THIS.
LET'S DECIDE THAT
AS THE BODY OF CHRIST,
WE'RE GOING TO BE
THE BODY MOVING IN ACTION
IN ANSWER TO PEOPLE'S PRAYERS.
Randy: I HOPE YOU'LL DO IT!
I HOPE YOU'LL DO IT TODAY.
WOULD YOU ALSO THANK
MS. JENNIE ALLEN
FOR BEING WITH US?
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Sheila: AWESOME, JENNIE!
THANK YOU!
YOU'LL WANT TO GET THIS BOOK
FOR ALL YOUR PEOPLE --
EVERYBODY!
Randy: THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.
DON'T MISS LIFE TODAY
EVERY DAY!
♪
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>> WE'RE BLESSED! WE'RE LIVING IN ACRES OF DIAMONDS.
JENTEZEN FRANKLIN EXPLAINS THAT THERE IS NO NEED
TO CHASE AFTER A BETTER LIFE! NEXT WEEK!
LIFE TODAY IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORTERS OF LIFE OUTREACH INTERNATIONAL.
YOUR GIFT WILL BE USED EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE EXEMPT PURPOSES OF LIFE.
THE MINISTRY FEATURES SPECIFIC OUTREACHES
AS EXAMPLES OF THE PROGRAMS IT SUPPORTS AND CONDUCTS.
GIFTS ARE CONSIDERED TO BE WITHOUT RESTRICTION
AS TO USE UNLESS EXPLICITLY STIPULATED BY THE DONOR.
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