Announcer: COMING UP, STAN AND CANDACE HAD LOST THEIR JOY
AND IT WAS AFFECTING THEIR MARRIAGE
BUT AFTER HEARING THE TEACHING OF JAMES AND ROBERT MORRIS,
THEY HAVE BEEN SET FREE.
AND WE ARE ON TOP OF THE ENEMY.
INSTEAD OF HIM DEFEATING US AND PUTTING US UNDER,
WE ARE ON TOP OF IT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OUR LIVES.
AND I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT I CAN TELL YOU THAT
BECAUSE IT HAS CHANGED EVERYTHING.
IT'S BEEN A YEAR AND EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT!
Announcer: BREAK THE CYCLE OF DEFEAT
AND LIVE FREE -- NEXT!
§
Betty: WELCOME TO LIFE TODAY!
THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR SHARING YOUR TIME WITH US.
WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
I'M BETTY AND THIS IS JAMES.
James: WELL, WE'VE GOT
OUR PASTOR, ROBERT MORRIS
AND I'M LOOKING DOWN HERE
AT A BOOK THAT HE WROTE.
HE HAS JUST PREACHED THIS SERIES
AT GATEWAY CHURCH,
<I>DREAM TO DESTINY</I>.
WE'RE ACTUALLY OFFERING
THIS BOOK WITH A SERIES
THAT ROBERT AND I DID
ON <I>LIVING FREE</I>:
B<I>REAKING THE CYCLE OF DEFEAT.</I>
INTERESTINGLY, BOTH OF US
AS MINISTERS, AS PREACHERS
WERE LIVING A LIFE
OF PERSONAL DEFEAT.
WE HAD WHAT YOU WOULD SAY
OR REFER TO AS PUBLIC SUCCESS
IN MINISTRY AND THERE WAS
NO QUESTION WE LOVED GOD
AND NO QUESTION
THAT WE WERE CHRISTIANS
BUT I WAS LIVING IN SUCH DEFEAT
THAT I HAD ACTUALLY ASKED BETTY
TO PRAY I WOULD DIE IN MY SLEEP.
AND BETTY, IN DESPERATION TO GOD
BEGAN TO PRAY, GOD,
PLEASE SET MY HUSBAND FREE.
PLEASE HELP HIM.
BRING BACK THE PEACE
AND THE JOY.
BY THE WAY, THE SAME THING
WAS HAPPENING TO ROBERT
AS A YOUNG PREACHER
AND HE WAS BEING DEFEATED.
NOW, PREACHERS AND CHRISTIANS
DON'T LIKE TO TALK
ABOUT BEING DEFEATED.
AS A MATTER OF FACT,
MOST CHRISTIANS SADLY
HAVE BEEN TAUGHT THAT
THE ENEMY, THAT THE REALM
OF DARKNESS AND DECEPTION
AND ALL THE DEMONIC INFLUENCES
CAN'T REALLY AFFECT THEM.
IT IS AS THOUGH
THE ONE AND ONLY DEVIL
WHO IS ONE PLACE AT A TIME
IS THE ONLY ONE
THAT EVER ASSAULTS THEM.
THE FACT IS
HE HAS A LEGION OF HELPERS.
AND IN THE INVISIBLE REALM,
THERE IS SOME
PRETTY AWFUL STUFF GOING ON
AND PEOPLE LIVE IN DEFEAT
AND DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO ENEMY IS
AND THEY SPEND TIME
ACCUSING ONE ANOTHER.
THAT'S WHY CHRISTIANS LIVE
IN A STATE OF FRICTION
BECAUSE THEY ARE LIVING,
SO MANY OF THEM,
IN TOTAL BONDAGE.
ROBERT AND I, AT THE REQUEST
OF ALL THE PEOPLE AT GATEWAY
AND PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY
SAID, "WOULD YOU SHARE
YOUR JOURNEY?"
WE WANTED TO SHARE.
WE'VE BEEN SHARING IT
OVER THE YEARS BUT WE TOOK
ABOUT 30 HOURS OF TEACHING
AND REDUCED IT DOWN TO SIX HOURS
IN THE SEMINAR
WHERE NEARLY 2,000 PEOPLE
WERE SITTING THERE
FOR THE ENTIRE TIME
OVER A THREE DAY PERIOD,
AND IT WAS TRANSFORMING.
NOW IT IS AVAILABLE
ON CD AND DVD,
<I>LIVING FREE:</I>
<I>BREAKING THE CYCLE OF DEFEAT</I>.
WE HAVE WITH US TODAY TWO GUESTS
THAT I'M TELLING YOU, I GOT
A NOTE FROM THEM TELLING ME
HOW GOD HAD CHANGED THEIR LIFE.
AND THEY CAME TO THE SEMINAR
AND THEY GOT THE TAPES
AND THEY BASICALLY SAID
WHAT HAPPENED TO US
WE WANT TO HAPPEN TO EVERYBODY.
STAN AND CANDACE HARE ARE HERE.
WOULD YOU WELCOME
STAN AND CANDACE TO LIFE TODAY?
[Applause]
WOULD YOU WELCOME
OUR PASTOR AT GATEWAY,
WHERE BETTY AND I GO,
AND WE'RE MEMBERS
AND WE'RE ACTIVE
AND WE LOVE THE CHURCH,
WOULD YOU WELCOME ROBERT MORRIS,
OUR PASTOR AT GATEWAY?
[Applause]
ROBERT, I KNOW YOU'RE ANXIOUS
TO HEAR THIS COUPLE'S TESTIMONY.
BUT LET ME JUST ASK YOU
AS PASTOR AND AS PREACHER
AND AS PREACHER DEFEATED
AS I WAS DEFEATED,
TELL US HOW IMPORTANT IT IS
FOR PEOPLE TO GRASP THE TRUTHS
THAT LITERALLY IMPACTED US
AS CHRISTIANS AND PREACHERS
THAT WAS SO TRANSFORMING
THAT IT SEEMED LIKE
IT WAS THE BIGGEST THING
THAT EVER HAPPENED IN OUR LIFE.
Robert: YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY
WHAT I WAS THINKING.
I WAS THINKING THIS IS
PROBABLY A BIG STATEMENT
BUT THESE ARE
THE GREATEST TRUTHS, I THINK,
THAT I CAN PRESENT AS A PASTOR.
BECAUSE WHEN I GOT SAVED,
I GOT THE DESIRE TO SERVE GOD.
MY DESIRE BEFORE I GOT SAVED
WAS TO GO MY OWN WAY.
I WAS INVOLVED
IN ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
I GOT SAVED,
GOD CHANGED MY HEART.
I WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING
BUT I DIDN'T HAVE THE POWER.
I HAD SOME, I HAD A DESIRE
BUT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN
WHEN WE SAW IN THE WORD
HOW THE ENEMY ATTACKS US,
HOW THE ENEMY HOOKS US,
(ONE OF THE TEACHINGS YOU DO,)
HOW THE ENEMY JUST SNARES US
AND KEEPS US IN BONDAGE
AND THEN HOW GOD CAN SET US FREE
BUT IT IS THROUGH HIS WORD --
IT IS THROUGH HIS WORD.
IT IS ALMOST LIKE
THERE ARE SECRETS,
THERE ARE KEYS IN THAT BOOK
THAT IF SOMEONE
WOULD JUST SHOW THEM TO US,
WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED
TO YOU AND ME
AND NOW YOU AND I SHOWING THEM
TO OTHER PEOPLE
AND THEN THE TESTIMONY WE HEAR
BACK LIKE THIS TESTIMONY
IS SOMEBODY SHOWED ME
HOW NOT TO JUST GET FREE
BUT HOW TO LIVE FREE.
THESE ARE THE GREATEST TRUTHS
I THINK THAT YOU AND I COULD
EVER SHARE WITH ANYONE.
James: WELL, WE FIRST OF ALL
EXPERIENCE THEM
BECAUSE WE EXPERIENCED
THE BONDAGE AND DEFEAT
THAT WE ACTUALLY SAW TYPICAL
OF MOST CHRISTIANS.
IT WAS SO TYPICAL
THAT WE BOTH ACTUALLY QUESTION
CAN YOU BE FREE?
IS IT REALLY POSSIBLE
FOR SOMEBODY TO BE FREE?
WHEN WE FOUND OUT IT REALLY WAS
TO LIVE AS AN OVERCOMER,
YOU'RE NOT FREED FROM THE BATTLE
BUT YOU'RE FREED TO THE BATTLE
BUT YOU ARE FREED
TO BATTLE EFFECTIVELY
WITH AN ARMOR AND WIN.
BUT IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
THE TACTICS OF THE ENEMY AND
HOW SUBTLE AND SINISTER HE IS
AND HOW HIDDEN HE IS,
IT SEEMS PRIMARILY
EVEN FROM CHURCH PEOPLE.
IT IS LIKE
PEOPLE LOST IN THE WORLD,
THEY KNOW THE ENEMY
HAS GOT A GRIP ON THEM
AND THEY DON'T REALLY SEEM
TO GIVE A RIP, THEY DON'T CARE.
BUT IN THE CHURCH
THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THE ENEMY
HAS HIS FOOT ON THEM
AND IS TRAMPLING THEM
AND THEY'RE NOT FERTILE,
FRUITFUL GARDENS;
THEY'RE TRAMPLED,
LITERALLY FALLOW GROUND
THAT'S UNPRODUCTIVE.
WELL, STAN AND CANDACE,
TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED.
WHO WANTS TO KIND OF TAKE OFF
BECAUSE YOU ENDED UP
AT THE TEACHING
AND HEARING WHAT WAS GOING ON
SO WHY DID YOU EVEN COME
AND WHAT HAPPENED?
Stan: I ARRIVED
AT THE CONFERENCE AND MEETINGS
IN REALLY ROUGH SHAPE,
JUST AN INCREASING AMOUNT
OF BONDAGE AND HOPELESSNESS OVER
I GUESS ABOUT THREE YEARS,
ANGER -- EVERYTHING
WAS JUST ANGER.
WE DEALT WITH IT,
HAD BEEN DEALING WITH IT
FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS
AND WE STARTED GOING
TO PASTOR ROBERT'S CHURCH
WHERE WE SENSED THE PEACE OF GOD
FOR THE FIRST TIME.
WHAT IS THAT?
WHAT IS THIS?
BUT AT THE CONFERENCE
WE HAVE A DIARY THAT WE KEEP
AND FOR THE DAYS
LEADING UP TO THAT,
ABOUT SIX DAYS I JUST WROTE
"FOG" - "FOG" -- EVERY DAY
BECAUSE IT WAS SO OPPRESSIVE.
AND JUST DRIVING OVER
TO THE CONFERENCE,
IT WAS ALL I COULD DO
TO JUST FOCUS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE IT
WITHOUT USING ALL THE CLICHÉS
BUT JUST AN OPPRESSION.
WE ARRIVED A FEW MINUTES LATE,
GOT A SEAT IN THE BACK,
AND I'M NOT SURE
WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
BUT WITHIN ABOUT 20 MINUTES
ALL OF THAT JUST LEFT.
IT JUST LEFT.
ALL OF THE SUDDEN I THOUGHT,
I CAN THINK.
IT WAS JUST SO DIFFERENT.
I WAS ABLE TO ENJOY
THE REST OF THE CONFERENCE.
WE HAVE BEEN
TO SOME CONFERENCES
OVER 25 YEARS.
WE'VE GONE TO A LOT OF MEETINGS,
WORKED FOR MINISTRIES
AND MEETINGS
AND A LOT OF GOOD MEETINGS
BUT THIS ONE,
EVERYTHING CHANGED.
AND WHAT YOU GENTLEMEN
WERE PREACHING AND TEACHING
AND BUILDING UP TO THE THIRD DAY
WHERE YOU COULD PRAY FOR PEOPLE
AND BREAK THAT THING,
IT HAPPENED TO ME
JUST BEING IN THE ATMOSPHERE
AND IN THE ANOINTING
THAT WAS COMING IN
FROM YOUR WORDS.
THAT'S THE FIRST THING
I WANTED TO TELL YOU
AND I'M SO GRATEFUL
THAT I COULD TELL YOU THAT
BECAUSE IT'S CHANGED EVERYTHING.
IT'S BEEN A YEAR
AND EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT.
James: DO YOU THINK
IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT FOR PEOPLE
WHO LISTEN TO WHAT YOU HEARD?
DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD SENSE
THAT ATMOSPHERE IF THEY LISTENED
TO THE TRUTH BECAUSE I'M
CONVINCED IT IS AN ATMOSPHERE
THAT GOES WITH TRUTH.
IT PERMEATES;
IT IS A PERVADING ATMOSPHERE IN
THAT IT PENETRATES YOUR HEART.
IT LITERALLY PIERCES
THE DARKNESS AND I THINK YOU
KIND OF WALKED INTO THE LIGHT
OF GOD'S GLORIOUS PRESENCE
IN LIBERATING POWER.
BUT DO YOU BELIEVE
THAT IF PEOPLE WILL LISTEN
TO WHAT YOU HEARD
THAT THEY TOO WOULD BE
IN THAT ATMOSPHERE OF TRUTH
THAT IS SO TRANSFORMING?
Stan: YES, AND WE --
I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY
THAT IS IN THESE SITUATIONS
THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING
TO STOP WATCHING MOVIES
AND INVEST IN THIS AND MAYBE
OTHER TEACHINGS LIKE THIS.
BUT INVEST IN THIS
AND LET THAT PRESENCE OF GOD
BECAUSE IT IS RIDING
ON THE WORDS
THAT YOU'RE PUTTING OUT.
AND IT'S -- IT'S THERE!
WE'VE BEEN WATCHING IT
JUST IN THE LAST WEEK AGAIN,
IT'S THERE!
James: WELL, IT IS RIDING
ON THE WORD --
IT IS RIDING ON HIS WORD,
AND IT IS THE UNSHAKEABLE,
PIERCING, TRANSFORMING POWER
OF THE WORD.
BETTY, WHEN YOU HEAR
A TESTIMONY LIKE THAT,
WHAT GOES ON IN YOUR HEART
WHEN YOU SEE
BECAUSE YOU WATCH WHAT GOD
NOT ONLY DID WITH ME
BUT WHAT HE DID
WITH SO MANY PEOPLE'S LIVES
AND WHAT HE DID IN YOUR LIFE.
Betty: I MEAN IT BLESSES ME
TO HEAR THEIR TESTIMONIES
BECAUSE I CAN ALSO THINK ON MINE
AND KNOW WHAT GOD
HAS DONE IN MY HEART
BECAUSE I WAS FULL OF FEAR
AND INTIMIDATION AND REJECTION
AND ALL THESE THINGS,
I HAD ALLOWED THE ENEMY
TO COME IN, EVEN AS A CHRISTIAN,
TO PUT ON ME
AND MAKE ME THINK THAT I COULD
-- THERE WASN'T ANYTHING
I COULD DO ABOUT IT.
I JUST HAD TO HANG IN THERE
AND ENDURE
AND KEEP BEING PASSIVE
LIKE I'VE BEEN ALL OF MY LIFE.
BUT YET WHEN I BEGAN
TO HEAR TRUTH
THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT TRUTH
WITH GOD'S SPIRIT
THAT REALLY PERMEATES
THE HEART AND THE SOUL
AND BREAKS DOWN THOSE BARRIERS
SO THAT WE CAN HEAR.
I COULD HEAR
AND UNDERSTAND GOD'S WORD
FOR THE FIRST TIME, REALLY.
BECAUSE ALL THOSE BARRIERS
WERE FALLING, AND THOSE WALLS
THAT I HAD ALLOWED THE ENEMY
TO BUILD UP IN ME
WERE COMING DOWN.
Robert: WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS
THE POWER IS IN THE WORD.
LIKE YOU SAID A MOMENT AGO,
IT IS NOT THE WORDS
WE WERE SPEAKING,
EXCEPT THE WORD
THAT WE WERE SPEAKING.
WHEN GOD WANTED SOMETHING
HE SPOKE
AND WHEN HE SPEAKS
IT IS CREATED.
SO HERE WE HAVE
THIS BONDAGE IN US --
AND THE THING ABOUT THE SEMINAR
THAT DID FOR ALL OF US
IS THAT THE WORD OF GOD CAME IN
AND WHEN THE LIGHT COMES IN,
AS STAN SAID,
THE DARKNESS GOES.
IT IS LIKE TURNING ON A LIGHT
IN A ROOM.
James: BUT YOU AND I EVEN
AS PREACHERS HAD BEEN TAUGHT
WHAT A LOT OF CHRISTIANS
HAD BEEN TAUGHT
AND THAT IS TO IGNORE THE ENEMY
AND HE WILL GO AWAY.
THE BIBLE SAYS
THAT WE ARE TO RESIST HIM
AND YOU CAN'T RESIST SOMETHING
YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE
AS BEING A REALITY.
AND WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO THINK
OF THE ONE AND ONLY DEVIL AND
THERE IS ONE DEVIL WHO CAN BE
IN ONE PLACE AT A TIME.
HE IS NOT OMNIPRESENT
NOR OMNISCIENT,
BUT HE HAS HORDES
OF HELLISH, FIENDISH AGENTS:
DEMONIC POWERS AND SPIRITS.
DON'T CRINGE AT THE WORD DEMON.
SEE THAT'S A DEMON TELLING YOU
DON'T LISTEN TO THAT.
CHRISTIANS ARE TOO SMART
FOR THAT.
YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THAT.
DO YOU THINK
JESUS WAS NOT BRIGHT?
DO YOU THINK HE WAS ILL INFORMED
WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT DEMONS
AND DEMONIC POWER
MORE THAN ANY PERSON
IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE?
WHY? BECAUSE HE KNEW
AND HE REVEALED THIS.
HE SAID THAT GREAT MINDS
DON'T COMPREHEND IT,
I REVEAL IT TO BABES,
TEACHABLE PEOPLE.
WELL, ROBERT AND I, WE REALLY
THOUGHT WE WERE TOO SMART,
LIKE A LOT OF PREACHERS,
BUT WE FOUND OUT
WE WERE SICK AND TIRED
OF GETTING DEFEATED
AND WE FOUND THE TRUTH
AND IT SET US FREE.
AND THAT'S WHY
WE'VE BEEN SHARING IT.
BUT PEOPLE ASK US, WOULD YOU
SHARE ALL THAT YOU SAW
AND KIND OF COMPRESS IT
AND WE DID IT
AND IT'S BEEN TRANSFORMING
AND WE WERE ABLE TO PUT IT
IN THIS SERIES, <I>LIVING FREE:</I>
<I>BREAKING THE CYCLE OF DEFEAT</I>.
CANDACE, WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU?
I KNOW YOUR HUSBAND IS SAYING
SOMETHING WONDERFUL HAPPENED.
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU?
WAS IT JUST SOMETHING HAPPENING
TO HIM, THE WONDERFUL?
BECAUSE YOU NEEDED IT SO BAD
YOU SAID, "WELL,
I KNOW HE NEEDED HELP."
Candace: WELL, HE IS WONDERFUL.
James: WHAT HAPPENED FOR YOU?
Candace: THE REAL MATTER IS
IS THAT I KNOW
FROM MY GROWING UP YEARS
THAT THERE IS A CLOUD OVER YOU,
AND EVEN WHEN YOU GET SAVED,
AND WE WERE
RADICALLY SAVED TOGETHER.
AND YOU GO ALONG
IN YOUR CHRISTIAN WALK AND
YOU'RE GETTING TO KNOW THE WORD
AND YOU'RE TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND IT
AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GROW
BUT THERE IS A LOT OF FEARS.
I'M UNDERSTANDING NOW
THAT THE FEAR THAT YOU HAVE,
YOU MAKE FEAR-BASED DECISIONS.
YOU HAVE WORDS --
YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD SAYS
A LOT OF TIMES
BUT YOU FALL BACK
BECAUSE OF THE PRESSURE
FROM THE DEMONIC REALM ON YOU
THAT CAUSES YOU TO FEAR
AND YOU BACK OFF.
YOU MAKE A FEAR-BASED DECISION.
James: AND THE LORD DIDN'T
GIVE US A SPIRIT OF FEAR
SO THAT SPIRIT OF FEAR
DID NOT COME FROM GOD
IT'S THE ENEMY.
BUT DIDN'T YOU FIND THAT PEOPLE
OVER YEARS HAD BEEN TAUGHT
LIKE I HAD JUST IMPLIED
TO JUST IGNORE THIS
OR NOT EVEN RECOGNIZE THAT
AS BEING A REALITY.
YOU THINK I'VE GOT
SOME OTHER KIND OF ISSUE.
YOU DON'T REALLY SEE YOURSELF
AS BEING UNDER ASSAULT
BECAUSE I'M A CHRISTIAN,
I'M SAVED, JESUS IS IN MY HEART,
AND YOU DON'T SEEM TO REALIZE
THERE IS A FORCE COMING AT YOU.
WAS THAT BASICALLY
WHAT YOU FOUND HAPPENING
IN YOUR OWN LIFE,
A SPIRIT OF FEAR
WAS ATTACKING YOU?
Candace: AND THE THING
THAT WAS SO WONDERFUL
ABOUT THIS SERIES
FROM THE TIME
JUST A FEW MINUTES AFTER,
I SENSED THAT KIND
OF A LIFTING AND UPLIFTING
IN THE ATMOSPHERE IN THE ROOM.
WHEN YOU BOTH
STARTED TALKING ABOUT
YOU CAN FREE PEOPLE
THAT HAVE BEEN SET FREE,
THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.
THERE IS A FREEDOM
THAT YOU ALL HAD
AND THE LOVE OF GOD
CAME THROUGH BOTH OF YOU
IN SUCH A WAY
I THOUGHT I KNEW GOD,
AND A PEACE OF GOD
BUT I WASN'T EXPERIENCING IT
FOR MYSELF
UNTIL AFTER THIS SERIES
IN SUCH A DRAMATIC WAY
BECAUSE THE COMPASSION
AND THE LOVE OF GOD
THAT CAME THROUGH YOU
AND UNCOVERING
ALL THE DEVICES OF THE ENEMY
MADE ME ABLE TO FIGHT.
AND I KIND OF FEEL LIKE
IN THE LAST DAYS
THEY SAY THE SAINTS ARE WORN OUT
BECAUSE OF ALL THE PRESSURE.
AND YOU WIN AND YOU LOSE
AND YOU WIN AND YOU LOSE
AND YOU GO BACK AND FORTH
BUT YOU ALWAYS GO THROUGH
THESE CYCLES
LIKE YOU WERE SAYING.
SO THAT PRESSURE,
THAT AWFUL PRESSURE,
THAT OPPRESSION,
WHEN THE TRUTH IS UNCOVERED
IN THIS SERIES,
IN THIS PARTICULAR SERIES
THAT WE WENT THROUGH,
IT OPENS YOUR EYES
AND A PEACE OF GOD COMES
BECAUSE NOW YOU TAKE
ALL THE WORD YOU KNOW
AND YOU LOOK AT IT
A DIFFERENT WAY.
WE STUDY THE BIBLE DIFFERENT.
THE WORDS COME ALIVE
IN A DIFFERENT WAY NOW.
AND WE ARE ON TOP OF THE ENEMY
INSTEAD OF HIM DEFEATING US
AND PUTTING US UNDER,
WE ARE ON TOP OF IT
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OUR LIVES.
AND WHEN WE START
TO GET THAT SAME PRESSURE,
WE STOP IT BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE
THOSE THINGS IN THE WORD
TO FIGHT IT WITH AND
WE KNOW THAT WE'RE FREE.
James: YOU KNOW YOU WERE
TALKING TO BETTY AND ME
BEFORE WE WALKED OUT HERE
AND YOU MADE A REFERENCE
TO JUST THE OVERWHELMING POWER
OF LOVE.
I'LL BE HONEST,
AND ROBERT, WHEN I STARTED
I LOVED JESUS SO MUCH.
BILLY FOOTE
WHO BROUGHT YOU TO MEET ME
WHEN YOU WERE JUST A TEENAGER,
YOU AND DEBBIE BOTH,
BILLY WOULD TELL YOU HOW MUCH
I LOVED JESUS SO MUCH.
BUT I LEFT FIRST LOVE
AND I BECAME RELIGIOUS.
AND I THINK YOU SAID, CANDACE,
YOU'VE BEEN AROUND
A LOT OF RELIGIOUS ACTIVITY
AND A LOT OF RELIGIOUS WORK
AND A LOT OF MINISTRIES
AND A LOT OF CHURCHES
AND YET YOU WERE BEING TRAMPLED
BECAUSE I THINK
WE'VE BEEN PROGRAMMED,
SOMEHOW AWAY FROM THE LOVE
THAT CROSSES ALL BARRIERS
AND LIFTS US UP TO WHERE
YOU'VE REALLY GOT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
IF YOU'VE BEEN AROUND
CHURCH FOLKS YOU DON'T SEE
A LOT OF CHURCH FOLKS THAT ACT
LIKE THEY EVEN LIKE EACH OTHER
MUCH LESS LOVE EACH OTHER.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR
JESUS' DISCIPLES IT LOOKS LIKE
YOU GOT TO GET SOME BINOCULARS
AND GO ON A SEARCH PARTY
OR GET THE F.B.I.
TO HELP YOU FIND THEM.
WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE
THAT LOVE EACH OTHER?
WHEN I WAS SET FREE GOD GAVE ME
A LOVE FOR EVERYBODY.
AND I BELIEVE YOU SAID
THAT PENETRATED
EVEN WHEN YOU WERE THERE.
I WANT TO TELL YOU
THAT CAME FROM THE DELIVERANCE
OF REALLY RELIGIOUS SPIRITS.
BETTY, YOU WERE NOT ONLY
DELIVERED FROM FEAR,
YOU WERE DELIVERED
FROM A WHOLE BUNCH OF RELIGION.
YOU WERE
THE ORIGINAL CHURCH LADY --
YOU WERE MISS PROPER.
[Laughter]
BUT YOU HAD TO BE DELIVERED.
SO YOU BASICALLY SAW THIS
AND IT HAPPENED TO WHERE
THAT LOVE ACTUALLY FROM WALKING
IN FREEDOM AND FULLNESS
WAS SOMETHING THAT REALLY
MAGNETICALLY ATTRACTED YOU.
Candace: WELL, THE OTHER THING
SINCE THEN, FOR THIS YEAR,
THAT LOVE PART.
YOU KNOW THE AUTHORITY
THAT YOU HAVE IN GOD
IN THE WORD OF GOD
AND THAT WE HAVE POWER
OVER THE ENEMY
BUT NOW WE'RE SEEING IT FROM --
WHEN YOU WERE DOING
THE HOOK PART IN THE SERIES,
TALKING ABOUT --
James: THAT FISH HOOK?
I WISH I HADN'T...
I WISH I HADN'T.
AND THE OLD TESTAMENT
TALKS ABOUT BEING HOOKED
AND LITERALLY DRAGGED
WITH A HOOK.
AND YOU KNOW HOW
YOU TALK ABOUT PEOPLE ADDICTED
OR PEOPLE THAT HAVE
RECURRING DEFEAT?
WELL, THEY'RE HOOKED.
THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE.
Candace: THAT WAS SO POWERFUL,
I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT.
James: BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND
WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE HOOKED.
IF YOU UNDERSTAND IT,
YOU CAN IDENTIFY WITH THE FISH
BECAUSE YOU'RE BEING
JERKED AROUND,
YOU'RE GOING WHERE YOU REALLY
DIDN'T WANT TO GO.
Candace: AND THE LOVE OF GOD,
WE LEARN ABOUT IT,
WE'VE HAD SEMINARS ON IT,
BUT TO REALLY KNOW
THAT JESUS LOVES US,
AND THAT COMPASSION
THAT COMES ON YOU AND ROBERT
WHEN YOU WERE DOING THE SERIES,
YOU COULD REALLY SEE JESUS.
FOR THE FIRST TIME
I WAS SEEING HIM
IN A DIFFERENT WAY THROUGH YOU.
I WAS SEEING HIM IN YOU.
AND IT SHOCKED ME IN A WAY
BECAUSE I REALIZED THAT
I HADN'T BEEN SEEING JESUS
LIKE I SHOULD HAVE
AND THAT LOVE
THAT CAME OUT OF YOU
IN THOSE TIMES,
ESPECIALLY THE FINAL ONE
WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT IT.
I CAN'T EXPLAIN
HOW THE WORD CHANGED ME NOW
AS I'M READING THE WORD OF GOD,
AS I'M THINKING AND STUDYING,
THAT IS COMING OUT OF ME
WHENEVER I DO ANYTHING.
AND WHERE I WORK,
I WORK ON THE PHONE SO I TALK
TO PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME.
James: IS IT COMING OUT OF HER?
Stan: OH, YEAH, IT'S BETTER!
James: IS IT COMING OUT OF HIM?
Candace: YES, IT IS!
AND HE IS NOT ANGRY.
James: CAN I HAVE A WITNESS?
Candace: YOU CAN HAVE A WITNESS,
HE IS NOT ANGRY.
WE'RE UNDERSTANDING
JOY AND PEACE
AND THAT LOVE FINALLY
IS COMING OUT THROUGH US
JUST IN MY VOICE.
AND WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE
THEY SAY, I SENSE
SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT YOU,
THAT VOICE OF YOURS,
THERE IS LOVE IN IT.
THEY SAY,
YOU LOVE GOD DON'T YOU?
IT'S DIFFERENT, THIS WHOLE YEAR.
James: CAN EVERYBODY
HAVE THAT PEACE?
Candace: YES, THEY CAN!
James: DO YOU THINK
AND I'M JUST ASKING YOU
VERY HONESTLY
BECAUSE THIS IS A DVD SERIES
AND IT WAS SHOT WITH
ABSOLUTE TREMENDOUS PRODUCTION,
THANK YOU ROBERT
BECAUSE WE DID THIS
AT GATEWAY CHURCH
AND THE PRODUCTION QUALITY
IS JUST REALLY CLEAR.
WOULD YOU AGREE
IF PEOPLE WOULD WATCH AND LISTEN
THAT THEY WOULD GET LET'S SAY
THE INSIGHT AND THE INSPIRATION
AND THE BIBLICAL TRUTH THAT
COULD BE LIBERATING TO THEM?
Candace: YES, ABSOLUTELY!
James: ROBERT, WHAT DO YOU THINK
WHEN YOU'VE SEEN PEOPLE
WHO HAVE LISTENED TO THE SERIES
AND THE COMMENTS
THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN BACK
FROM SO MANY PEOPLE?
Robert: WELL, YOU KNOW
IT'S NOT THAT THESE GUYS
DIDN'T LOVE GOD BEFORE.
IT'S THAT THEY WEREN'T FREE
TO LOVE GOD THE WAY GOD
INTENDED FOR THEM TO LOVE.
WE LIVE IN A FALLEN WORLD
AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW
THAT THE ENEMY CAN ATTACK US.
SO MANY TIMES YOU LOOK BACK AT
JOHN EIGHT, JESUS SAID
YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH,
THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE
BUT HE WAS TALKING TO DISCIPLES.
THEY SAY, "WELL,
WE'VE NEVER BEEN IN BONDAGE"
AND THEY WERE JEWS!
LET ME SAY IT AGAIN,
THEY WERE JEWS!
James: THEY HAD ALWAYS
BEEN IN BONDAGE.
Robert: THEY HAD ALWAYS
BEEN IN BONDAGE,
AND THAT'S THE BLINDNESS.
SO MANY TIMES
CHRISTIANS SAY THAT.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE
TO UNDERSTAND IS GOD'S WORD
CAN SET US FREE
IF WE'LL LET IT SET US FREE.
James: SEE, BONDAGE BLINDS.
IT BLINDS YOU TO THE TRUTH
OF WHAT IS GOING ON.
PLEASE GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY
TO HELP YOU.
WHEN TWO OF US WHO HAD
HIGHLY EFFECTIVE MINISTRIES,
I ALREADY AT THAT TIME HAD
ONE OF THE LARGEST MINISTRIES
IN THE COUNTRY
AND I FELT LIKE I WAS ONE
OF THE MOST DEFEATED PREACHERS
ON THE PLANET,
THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
WHEN YOU ASK YOUR WIFE TO PRAY
YOU'LL DIE WHILE YOU'RE ASLEEP,
WHEN I ACTUALLY TRIED
TO FIGURE WAYS TO DIE.
YOU SAY, WHY IS THAT?
BECAUSE I KNEW THAT FOR SOMEONE
PREACHING THE TRUTH
AND PREACHING THE WORD OF GOD
TO BE AS DEFEATED AS I WAS
THAT WAS A HORRIBLE TESTIMONY
BUT THAT WAS THE TRUTH.
I WAS DEFEATED.
AND UNTIL I WOULD ADMIT
THE TRUTH ABOUT WHERE I WAS,
I COULDN'T WALK INTO THE TRUTH
THAT WOULD LIBERATE.
I WAS CRYING OUT.
I WAS ASKING EVERYONE,
"PLEASE HELP ME."
AND I FINALLY SAW A MAN
WHO SAID TO ME, "I'M FREE."
I KNEW HE WAS TELLING ME
THE TRUTH.
HIS NAME WAS DUDLEY HALL.
AND THE SAME OLD CARPET CLEANER
HAD PRAYED FOR HIM
THAT PRAYED FOR ME
AND PRAYED FOR ROBERT.
ROBERT AND I,
WHEN WE COMMUNICATED,
AND I TOLD YOU,
BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO KNOW
IF YOU HAD SOME TORMENTERS,
AND I SAID, "YOU'VE GOT
A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM!"
AND YOU FOUND FREEDOM.
WE TALK ABOUT
HOW YOU CAN BE FREE.
LISTEN, THAT'S NOT SUGAR
MAKING YOU IRRITABLE. YOU
MAY HAVE LOW BLOOD SUGAR
BUT THAT THING MAKING YOU MEAN,
THAT AIN'T JUST EATING
TOO MANY SWEETS.
THE MEAN-SPIRITEDNESS
AND THE DEPRESSION
AND THE HEAVINESS AND THE FEAR
AND THE ANXIETY
AND THE LACK OF PREVAILING PEACE
ON CHURCH MEMBERS --
YOU CAN LOOK
AT PEOPLE COMING IN CHURCH,
THEY LOOK LIKE
THE LOCAL CHAIN GANG,
SOMEBODY JUST DRUG THEM IN.
I USED TO SPEND MY TIME
PRAYING THAT THE CHOIR WOULDN'T
FALL ASLEEP WHILE THE PREACHER
WAS PREACHING.
THEY LOOKED LIKE
THEY WERE ASLEEP IN THE DEEP --
NO JOY, NO PEACE
AND THEY ARE CHURCH PEOPLE.
WHY? BECAUSE THE ENEMY
HAS A HOOK IN THEM; THEY'RE
DEFEATED AND DOWNTRODDEN.
I LIVED THERE AS A PREACHER,
AS A CHRISTIAN.
BETTY LIVED THERE
AS A SWEET LITTLE CHURCH LADY
BUT SHE WAS DEFEATED.
GOD MIRACULOUSLY SET US FREE
BY THE POWER OF HIS WORD.
ROBERT AND I SPENT THREE DAYS --
WE COMPRESSED 30 HOURS
OF TEACHING INTO SIX HOURS.
IT IS ON DVD AND CD
AND THERE IS A WORKBOOK.
AND THEN IF YOU'LL ASK
FOR THE DVD SERIES
WE'RE GOING TO ALSO
SEND YOU ROBERT'S BOOK,
WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS.
HE HAS JUST DONE THIS SERIES
AT THE CHURCH,
<I>DREAM TO DESTINY</I>.
I MEAN IT IS AWESOME.
WE'LL SEND THAT TO YOU
BECAUSE WE WANT
WHAT GOD WANTS FOR YOU.
WE WANT YOU TO LIVE IN FREEDOM.
I'M ASKING YOU
TO GET THE DVD SERIES,
TO GET THE TRUTH
DOWN IN YOUR HEART.
DON'T JUST CARRY IT AROUND
IN A LEATHER BOOK,
CARRY IT IN YOUR LIFE
AND LET THE WORD OF GOD
CARRY YOU -- IT WILL
BUT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND
THERE IS A VERY REAL ENEMY
THAT WE PUT ON AN ARMOR
TO FIGHT AGAINST
AND YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND
THE TACTICS
AND YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND
THE TRUTH THAT SETS YOU FREE.
WE WANT TO SHARE TRUTH WITH YOU
THAT I'M ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED
WILL BE LIBERATING
AND TRANSFORMING.
WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING YOU
TO HELP BY MAKING A GIFT
TO KEEP THE OUTREACHES
OF LIFE STRONG,
THE TELEVISION OUTREACH,
ALL THE MISSION OUTREACHES.
WE'RE ASKING YOU FOR A GIFT
OF $99 OR MORE.
YOU MAY BE IMPRESSED
AND SAY, "JAMES,
I WANT TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL
BECAUSE WE WANT
TO HELP PEOPLE KNOW THE LORD
AND KNOW THE FREEDOM HE OFFERS."
THANK YOU FOR THAT GIFT.
ASK FOR THE DVD SERIES.
IF YOU WANT THE CD SERIES
THEN SIMPLY MAKE A GIFT OF $49
AND WE'LL SEND YOU THE CD'S.
WE WANT TO BE A BLESSING TO YOU.
I THANK YOU SO MUCH RIGHT NOW
FOR GIVING US THAT OPPORTUNITY.
WOULD YOU THANK OUR SPECIAL
GUESTS FOR BEING HERE?
WHAT A BLESSING THEY'VE BEEN!
[Applause]
ROBERT, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR SHARING.
I ENCOURAGE YOU GO TO THE PHONE
OR GO ONLINE AND ASK HOPEFULLY,
BECAUSE I THINK IT IS SOMETHING
YOU'LL WANT TO SHARE
WITH OTHERS,
EVEN A STUDY GROUP
OR PERHAPS YOUR CHURCH,
ASK FOR THE DVD SERIES
OR GET THE CD'S.
Announcer: THERE IS A SPIRITUAL BATTLE
BEING WAGED EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY
TO KEEP YOU FROM EXPERIENCING FREEDOM AND THE ABUNDANT LIFE.
FOR THOSE WHO FAIL TO RECOGNIZE THIS,
ONLY A LIFE FILLED WITH DEFEAT AWAITS.
INTRODUCING "LIVING FREE,"
A DYNAMIC NEW SERIES THAT WILL EMPOWER YOU
TO BREAK ANY CYCLE OF DEFEAT IN YOUR LIFE.
THROUGH SIX LIFE-CHANGING MESSAGES
JAMES ROBISON AND ROBERT MORRIS SHARE THE TRUTHS OF GOD'S WORD
THAT WILL EQUIP YOU TO WIN THE BATTLE
AND EXPERIENCE THE LIFE OF VICTORY GOD INTENDED FOR YOU.
THE BIBLE WILL COME ALIVE
AS YOU STUDY ALONG WITH JAMES AND ROBERT.
THE MESSAGES THEY PROCLAIM WILL HELP SET YOU FREE
AND THE STRONGHOLDS IN YOUR LIFE CAN BE FOREVER BROKEN.
LIVE EVERY DAY AS YOU WERE MEANT TO!
LIVE FREE!
I DEFINITELY RECOMMEND GETTING THIS CD OR THE DVD.
THIS WAS AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE.
HEALING, RESTORATION,
PEACE, JOY, EVERYTHING!
IT'S JUST AN AWESOME FEELING
TO BE ABLE TO SAY, "I FEEL FREE."
Announcer: CALL NOW TO RECEIVE THE "LIVING FREE"
AUDIO SERIES AND COMPANION STUDY GUIDE
WITH YOUR GIFT OF JUST $49.
OR REQUEST BOTH VIDEO AND AUDIO SERIES,
WITH STUDY GUIDE, FOR JUST $99
AND WE'LL ALSO SEND YOU THE BEST-SELLING BOOK BY ROBERT MORRIS,
"FROM DREAM TO DESTINY."
AND REMEMBER, YOUR GIFT TODAY HELPS US BRING
FREEDOM IN CHRIST TO THOSE IN NEED AROUND THE WORLD.
PLEASE CALL, WRITE, OR MAKE YOUR GIFT ONLINE TODAY!
Robert: BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS
GOD IS IN CONTROL.
IF YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING ELSE
OUT OF THIS SEMINAR,
I WANT YOU TO GET THAT
OUT OF THIS SEMINAR,
GOD IS IN CONTROL
AND GOD CAN RELEASE THEM --
AND LISTEN TO ME --
AND GOD CAN STOP THEM.
AND GOD CAN SET YOU FREE
FROM THE BONDAGE
THAT YOU WALKED INTO
WHEN YOU WALKED AWAY FROM GOD.
HE CAN SET YOU FREE IN A MOMENT.
James: HE NOT ONLY WANTS TO POUR
HIS LOVE OUT ON YOU BUT HE WANTS
TO POUR IT OUT THROUGH YOU.
LISTEN TO ME --
IF YOU'RE ALL LOCKED UP
RIGHT NOW AND THINKING,
BUT BOY, I'VE GOT TO GET FREE!
I WANT TO BE FREE!
I WANT YOU FREE
BUT I WANT YOU FREE FOR HIM!
FOR FELLOWSHIP!
FOR INTIMACY!
FOR A LOVE RELATIONSHIP!
I WANT YOU FREE
SO HE CAN SET OTHERS FREE.
I CAN'T JUST LOOK HERE.
I CAN'T JUST LOOK THERE.
I SEE WHAT HE SEES THROUGH YOU,
A RIVER OF LIFE!
THROUGH YOU,
SUCH A FRUITFUL GARDEN --
SUCH BEAUTY --
James: I DO HOPE YOU'RE ASKING
FOR THE CD'S AND THE DVD'S
AND YOU'LL BE GETTING
ROBERT'S BOOK
IF YOU GET THE DVD SERIES.
I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU
TO CONSIDER SHARING THIS
WITH A STUDY GROUP.
FIRST OF ALL WATCH,
LISTEN YOURSELF
AND THEN PASS IT ON.
AGAIN, LET'S THANK
PASTOR ROBERT MORRIS
AT GATEWAY CHURCH,
AND OUR GUESTS,
THANK YOU SO MUCH
STAN AND CANDACE FOR SHARING.
THANK GOD FOR WHAT HE IS DOING
IN YOUR LIFE!
THANK GOD FOR WHAT
HE IS GOING TO DO
IN YOUR LIFE.
HE CAME TO SET
THE CAPTIVES FREE!
THAT'S GOOD NEWS!
James: WE CAN TRANSFORM
THIS COMMUNITY, WE CAN TRANSFORM
THIS NATION, WE CAN REBUILD
THE AGE-OLD FOUNDATIONS
AND REBUILD THOSE WALLS,
THAT'S WHAT GOD WANTS US TO DO.
I THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL AT A TIME RIGHT NOW
WHERE OUR NATION DOES NOT PROCLAIM THE FULL GOSPEL
AND WHERE THERE IS A FAMINE OF THE WORD OF GOD
AND I THINK THE DYNAMIC OF THEM DIGGING INTO THE SPIRITUAL REALM
HAS BROUGHT FORTH TRUTH THAT MANY BELIEVERS DON'T WALK IN
AND HAVE NOT HEARD PROBABLY THEIR ENTIRE LIFE.
I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS WHETHER YOU'VE BEEN
A CHRISTIAN FOR A LONG TIME OR YOU'RE A NEW CHRISTIAN
OR YOU'RE JUST SHOWING IT TO YOUR FRIENDS,
I THINK EVERYONE CAN WALK AWAY WITH SOMETHING POSITIVE FROM THIS!
Robert: WHEN JAMES AND I SAW
THIS ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO
IT CHANGED OUR LIFE
AND WE STARTED DEVOURING
THE WORD OF GOD
AND WE COULDN'T GET ENOUGH
OF THE WORD OF GOD.
THAT'S WHY.
AND THAT IS WHAT SET US FREE.
WHAT SET US FREE
WAS NOT A PERSON BUT GOD'S WORD.
I'M NOTHING FANCY, I'M JUST A MOMMA IN PLANO, TEXAS
WITH BLOND HAIR AND A WHITE SUBURBAN.
Announcer: BREAK THE CYCLE OF DEFEAT IN YOUR LIFE
AND LIVE FREE -- TOMORROW!