Announcer:
NEXT ON LIFE TODAY!
WHAT DO YOU DO IF YOUR CHILD
OR LOVED ONE COMES OUT AS GAY?
HOW DO YOU RESPOND
TO AN INVITATION
TO A SAME SEX WEDDING?
HOW CAN YOU HELP SOMEONE
WHO IS STRUGGLING
WITH HOMOSEXUAL
FEELINGS?
>> I UNDERSTAND
WHERE THEY'VE BEEN
AND I WON'T LET ANYBODY
BEAT DOWN SOMEBODY THAT
IS LIVING A HOMOSEXUAL LIFE
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
ANY RIGHT TO DO THAT.
Announcer: JANET BOYNES
WHO ONCE LIVED 14 YEARS
IN THE HOMOSEXUAL
LIFESTYLE,
NOW HELPS PEOPLE LEARN
HOW TO SHOW COMPASSION
WITHOUT
COMPROMISING TRUTH.
♪
James: Y'ALL ARE
VERY, VERY KIND.
THANK YOU.
WE WELCOME YOU TO LIFE TODAY.
I'M JAMES ROBISON.
BETTY AND I ARE
THRILLED TO HAVE,
IN LIGHT OF THE CHALLENGES
THAT WE FACE TODAY,
THE SEXUAL REVOLUTION,
THE GAY REVOLUTION TODAY,
L.G.B.T.
THEY TALK ABOUT IT.
IT SEEMS THAT MORE
AND MORE PEOPLE
ARE COMING OUT, SO TO SPEAK.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET PEOPLE
TO COME OUT FOR YEARS,
OUT OF THE CLOSET
AND BEGIN TO BE
A BRIGHT LIGHT FOR CHRIST;
TO COME OUT FROM UNDER COVER,
TO BE A WITNESS.
I WROTE THE BOOK
LIVING AMAZED
TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE
TO LIVE IN AMAZING GRACE
AND POWER OF GOD,
DIVINE ENABLING, SUPERNATURAL.
JANET BOYNES HAD
A PRETTY TOUGH CHILDHOOD;
REALLY WAS HURT
AND DECIDED THAT SHE WAS GAY,
THAT SHE WAS A LESBIAN
AND SHE LIVED THAT LIFESTYLE
FOR MANY YEARS.
AND A MIRACLE OCCURRED --
JANET WAS SET FREE
FROM THE LESBIAN LIFESTYLE
BUT PEOPLE IN THE GAY MOVEMENT
DON'T EVEN WANT YOU TO SAY
THAT THEY HAVE SOMETHING
TO BE SET FREE FROM.
THIS IS ACTUALLY
THE WAY THEY'VE BEEN MADE
AND THE REST OF YOU NEED
TO GET FREE AND UNDERSTAND IT
AND ACCEPT IT.
SO I'M INTERESTED
IN HEARING JANET'S STORY
BECAUSE SHE HAS BEEN BACK IN
WHAT SHE BELIEVES IS
THE CENTER OF GOD'S WILL,
LIVING AS A WOMAN
AND SHE BELIEVES
SHE CAN HELP US, ALL OF US,
HELP OTHERS
WHO HAVE A CHALLENGE.
THEY MAY NOT WANT
TO CALL IT A PROBLEM
BUT SOME KIND OF A CHALLENGE.
WOULD YOU WELCOME JANET BOYNES
TO LIFE TODAY?
[Applause]
JANET, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
Janet: GOOD SEEING YOU.
James: YOU WERE HERE
A FEW YEARS AGO
AND YOU WERE A NEW PERSON
AND YOU'RE STILL A NEW PERSON
NOW YEARS LATER.
YOU HAVE A WEBSITE BECAUSE
YOU WANT TO HELP CHURCHES
AND CHRISTIANS
KNOW HOW TO REACH OUT.
YOU WANT PARENTS OF A CHILD
OR GRANDPARENTS
THAT HAVE BROUGHT
THIS SITUATION TO THEM
TO KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.
WHAT IS THE WEBSITE
THEY GO TO TO GET ADVICE?
Janet: W.W.W.JANETBOYNES
MINISTRIES.COM
James: ALL RIGHT, AND IT
IS THERE ON THE WEBSITE.
YOU KNOW WE DON'T HAVE
TO PUT THE W.W.W. ANYMORE.
YOU CAN JUST START
JANET BOYNES.
SO TELL US WHAT YOU WANT US
TO HEAR FROM YOUR STORY
BUT ALSO WHAT YOU WANT
TO SAY TO US AS CHRISTIANS
SO THAT WE CAN HELP PEOPLE
THAT WE BELIEVE,
ACCORDING TO BIBLICAL TRUTH
AND EVEN NATURE,
BECAUSE ROMANS ONE IS CLEAR --
THIS IS NOT OLD TESTAMENT,
THIS IS NEW TESTAMENT --
THAT WHEN YOU BEGIN
TO CAST ASIDE THE TRUTH OF GOD
AND YOU WORSHIP
SOMETHING CREATED
RATHER THAN THE CREATOR,
AND YOU CHANGE TRUTH INTO
SOMETHING OTHER THAN TRUTH
THEN YOU'RE GIVEN OVER
TO APPETITES THAT THE
SCRIPTURE VERY CLEARLY SAYS
ARE NOT NATURAL,
THEY'RE NOT THE NORM,
THEY'RE NOT
SEXUALLY NATURAL EVEN,
AND YOU GIVE IN
TO PRACTICES LIKE THAT
AND THEN THE COMMUNITY
WILL GIVE,
WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING,
WHOLEHEARTED APPROVAL
TO THIS LIFESTYLE.
THAT'S WHAT
WE'RE WATCHING TODAY.
SO TALK TO US ABOUT IT.
Janet: I WANT TO START OFF
WITH FIRST THAT I LIVED
THE HOMOSEXUAL LIFE
FOR 14 YEARS.
I WAS RAISED IN A FAMILY
OF SEVEN KIDS,
FOUR DIFFERENT FATHERS.
WATCHED MY MOTHER GET ABUSED;
SHE ABUSED US
AND I BECAME THE ABUSER.
THEN IN TURN I WAS RAPED
BY MY MOTHER'S HUSBAND,
AND THEN LATER
I WAS RAPED BY AN ALTAR BOY.
SO WHEN YOU REALLY THINK
ABOUT WHAT I WATCHED
HOW A DRUNKEN STEPFATHER
BEAT UP MY MOM,
ABUSED BY MY MOM'S HUSBAND
THEN BY AN ALTAR BOY,
I MADE A DECISION
EARLY IN LIFE
THAT NO MAN IS GOING
TO HURT ME AGAIN IN LIFE.
EVEN THOUGH I STARTED
TO GET MARRIED
AT THE AGE OF 35,
3 MONTHS BEFORE I WAS SUPPOSED
TO WALK DOWN THE AISLE,
I WALKED AWAY FROM THE LORD
FOR 14 YEARS.
WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS
SIN WILL TAKE YOU FURTHER
THAN YOU WANT TO GO
AND KEEP YOU LONGER
THAN YOU WANT TO STAY.
I NEVER INTENDED
TO LIVE A HOMOSEXUAL LIFE
FOR 14 YEARS.
I THOUGHT I WAS JUST GOING
TO TRY IT FOR THAT
SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
AND I CAUGHT MYSELF BEING
CAUGHT IN THE ENEMY'S TRAP
FOR 14 LONG YEARS.
BUT THE REASON WHY
I WROTE THIS BOOK,
GOD AND SEXUALITY IS THAT
THE CHURCH DOESN'T REALLY
HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF
HOW WE WORK WITH THOSE
WHO ARE STRUGGLING
IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.
PARENTS DON'T EVEN KNOW
HOW TO WORK WITH THEIR KIDS.
WE GET SO MANY EMAILS
FROM PARENTS.
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL
WHEN YOUR KID COMES TO YOU
AND SAYS, "MOM, DAD, I'M GAY."
MOST PARENTS SAY TO ME,
"IT'S ALMOST LIKE SOMEBODY
JUST TOOK THE WIND
RIGHT OUT OF ME."
BUT WHAT THEY WIND UP DOING
IS KICKING THEIR KID
OUT OF THE HOME.
WE HAVE TO START
HAVING COMPASSION
WITHOUT COMPROMISE.
EVERYBODY WANTS
TO BE VALIDATED
AND WE SHOULD VALIDATE PEOPLE.
WE SHOULD --
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE
TO ACCEPT THEIR CHOICES.
PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW,
WHAT DO I DO
IF SOMEBODY GETS MARRIED
OR WHAT I CALL A CIVIL UNION?
ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF A MARRIAGE
OF A MAN AND A WOMAN
TO ME IS NOT A MARRIAGE.
THE WORLD CALLS IT A MARRIAGE,
I CALL IT A CIVIL UNION.
DO I GO TO THE WEDDING?
DO WE SEND A GIFT?
WHAT DO WE DO?
MY SUGGESTION IS
IF YOU GET AN INVITE,
ACKNOWLEDGE THEM.
ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT
THAT YOU RECEIVED THAT.
SEND A NICE THANK YOU.
UNLESS YOU'RE LED BY GOD
THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO
AND HE DROPS SOMETHING
ON YOUR HEAD AND SAYS,
"YOU GO," THEN YOU GO.
BUT I THINK THAT WHAT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT IS THAT
WHAT COMES OUT OF OUR MOUTH
WE'RE PUTTING INTO ACTION.
SO IF YOU SAY THAT
HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG
AND YOU'RE GOING
TO INVALIDATE THAT
BY GOING TO THIS CIVIL UNION
THEN WE'RE TALKING OUT OF
BOTH SIDES OF OUR MOUTH.
SO WE NEED TO KNOW
WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT
IF WE'RE GOING TO
SOMETHING LIKE THAT
IS WHERE THE LORD
IS TELLING US TO GO.
THE OTHER THING IS
PEOPLE ARE TRANSITIONING.
THEY EITHER HAVE SURGERY,
MEN ARE BECOMING WOMEN
AND WOMEN ARE BECOMING MEN.
HOW DO WE RESPOND TO THAT?
James: AND EVEN CHILDREN --
THE SAD THING,
IS CHILDREN WHO ARE GOING
THROUGH SOME CHALLENGES
AND MAKE DECISIONS
THEY MAY REGRET
FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS.
Janet: THAT IS
THE PARENT'S FAULT.
HOW CAN A CHILD TELL THEIR
PARENT AT THE AGE OF FIVE,
"I WANT TO TRANSITION,
A REASSIGNMENT SURGERY
AND I WANT TO BECOME
A BOY OR A GIRL."
THE PARENTS SHOULD
BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
TO DO OUR PART.
HOMOSEXUALITY
IS IN OUR SCHOOLS.
WHAT DO WE DO?
THE PARENTS AND THE FAMILIES
ARE GOING TO HAVE TO START
STEPPING UP AND BE A VOICE
FOR OUR KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS.
WE ARE SEEING MARRIAGES
FALL APART
ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
MARRIAGES ARE DIMINISHING.
YOU MIGHT NOT HEAR ABOUT THEM
BUT I HEAR
ABOUT MANY MARRIAGES
THAT HUSBANDS
ARE LEAVING THEIR WIVES
TO GO INTO A HOMOSEXUAL LIFE
AND VICE VERSA.
WHAT DO WE DO?
WE CONTINUE TO DO
WHAT WE KNOW TO DO.
WE PRAY.
WE BECOME THE LOVING CHURCH
INSTEAD OF
THE JUDGMENTAL CHURCH.
WE START HAVING COMPASSION
WITHOUT COMPROMISE AND STOP
TRYING TO PLAY GOD JUNIOR.
YOU ARE NOT GOD JUNIOR.
WE CAN'T CHANGE ANYBODY.
HE'S GOING TO CHANGE THEM
BY THEM SITTING
UNDER THE WORD OF GOD.
SO WE NEED THEM
IN OUR CHURCHES.
James: DELIVERED IN LOVE.
IF IT IS NOT DELIVERED IN LOVE
IT IS DIMINISHED IN ITS AFFECT
IF NOT THE AFFECT TOTALLY
DESTROYED BY LACK OF LOVE.
Janet: BECAUSE WE HAVE
MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE DEALING
WITH PORNOGRAPHY
IN OUR CHURCHES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF MARRIAGES
THAT ARE HAVING SEX
OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM STEALING
AND DOING DRUGS, AND ALL
THESE THINGS BUT THEY'RE
ACCEPTED INTO THE CHURCH.
IF YOU'RE A GAY OR A LESBIAN
THEY WANT TO KICK YOU
OUT OF CHURCH; IT'S WRONG.
James: WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING
THE COMPROMISE OF THE DEFEAT
IN A PERSON'S LIFE
WHEN THEY'RE ADDICTED
OR CONTROLLED
BY SOME OTHER FORCE
OTHER THAN THE WISDOM
AND LOVE OF GOD AND WHEN
THEY'RE SLEEPING TOGETHER
WHILE THEY'RE DATING,
KNOWING THAT THIS IS NOT
BIBLICALLY APPROVED.
BUT SOMEHOW THEY FEEL LIKE
THEY CAN SIT THERE
IN AN ATMOSPHERE WHERE
SOMEBODY CARES ABOUT ME AND
THEY WILL TELL ME THE TRUTH
AND WE DELIVER THE TRUTH
IN LOVE TO SEE THEM
HOPEFULLY TRANSFORMED.
AND IF THEY TALK TO US ABOUT
THE ISSUE WE WOULD SAY
THIS IS NOT RIGHT,
THIS IS NOT BEST.
WE BELIEVE GOD
CAN WALK YOU OUT OF IT.
THE SAD THING WITH PEOPLE IN
THE GAY COMMUNITY THOUGH IS
IT SEEMS THEY DON'T EVEN
WANT TO ADMIT
THAT THERE'S SOMETHING
TO BE WALKED OUT OF.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE SAY
WE CAN GET HELP FOR A PROBLEM
BUT IF YOU DON'T ADMIT
THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM
YOU'RE NOT LIKELY TO SEEK
SOME KIND OF SOLUTION
TO THE PROBLEM.
THEY WILL CALL THIS
"THE PROVIDENTIAL HAND OF GOD
MAKING ME THIS WAY.
THIS IS THE WAY HE MADE ME,
NOW YOU ACCEPT IT."
THEY DO BRING THAT.
IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE
ARE SAYING, "WELL, GOD MADE ME
SEXUALLY PRETTY DRIVEN
SO I JUST HAVE
TO KEEP HAVING SEX."
THEY DON'T EVEN THINK
THAT WILL FLY
SO THEY DON'T ARGUE IT.
BUT IN
THE HOMOSEXUAL COMMUNITY,
"THIS IS HOW IT IS.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE
TO ACCEPT IT" AND SO FORTH.
SO WHAT'S CAUSING
THIS RESISTANCE ON THEIR PART
THAT ALMOST BECOMES
SO DEMANDING --
AND IS IT BECAUSE THE CHURCH
HAS JOINED IN THE MOCKERY
AND THE FEELING
OF BEING BULLIED
THAT WE HAVE BEEN FOUND
IN THAT CIRCLE
AND THEY DON'T SEE US
AS ACTUALLY CARING ABOUT THEM
WHEN THEY SAY,
"WHY WOULD YOU CARE ABOUT ME?
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG
WITH ME."
HOW DO WE DEAL WITH
THIS INCREDIBLE DIVIDE
THAT'S THERE?
HOW DO WE GET ACROSS
THAT DIVIDE?
Janet: IT'S GOING TO BE
THE GRACE OF GOD.
BUT DO YOU KNOW,
JAMES AND BETTY,
THAT THERE IS A LOT
OF MEN AND WOMEN
THAT ARE LIVING A LIFE
OF HOMOSEXUALITY THAT
USED TO BE IN THE CHURCH?
THERE'S MORE LEAVING
THE CHURCH
GOING INTO HOMOSEXUALITY
THAN THERE ARE
COMING OUT OF THE CHURCH.
AND A LOT OF THEM
HAVE BEEN HURT BY THE CHURCH.
IT'S NOT THE REASON
WHY THEY MIGHT HAVE WENT INTO
THE LIFE OF HOMOSEXUALITY
BUT EVEN WHEN
THEY ARE AT CHURCH
AND THEY ASK FOR HELP
THEY DIDN'T GET THE HELP
THAT THEY NEEDED.
WE ARE MISSING IT RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
RIGHT NOW TO HELP THOSE
THAT ARE STRUGGLING.
James: I REALLY DO
BELIEVE THAT.
I THINK WE ALL NEED HELP
IN KNOWING HOW
WE WALK THROUGH THE DOOR.
WE HAD A YOUNG LADY,
A VERY BEAUTIFUL GIRL
WHO WE ASKED HER
TO DO SOME THINGS FOR US
THAT RELATED TO CARE,
PET CARE.
THEN SHE SAID,
"I THINK MAYBE..."
AND SHE WAS A SWEETHEART.
WE JUST REALLY LOVED HER.
BEAUTIFUL.
SHE SAID, "I THINK MAYBE
YOU NEED TO KNOW I'M GAY.
I'M A LESBIAN."
I SAID, "WELL,
MAN, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW
HOW THIS DOES FIT.
I APPRECIATE YOUR HONESTY."
I SAID,
"DO YOU HAVE A FRIEND?"
SHE SAID, "YES, I DO."
I SAID,
"DO YOU EVER GO TO CHURCH?"
SHE SAID, "WELL, WHEN I GO,
I GO TO GATEWAY."
I SAID, "WHY DON'T YOU COME
AND BRING YOUR FRIEND
AND SIT WITH ME AND BETTY?
WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO WITH US
FROM NOW ON?
JUST GO AND SIT WITH US."
NOW WAS THAT RIGHT
FOR ME TO SAY THAT
BECAUSE I FELT PERFECT PEACE
AND BETTY DID TOO.
Janet: WHY NOT?
James: AND I WANT
TO KNOW HER FRIEND.
AND I WANT TO KNOW
WHERE YOU ARE
AND I WOULDN'T HURT YOU.
I WOULD WANT TO HELP YOU.
I'M NOT GOING TO APPROVE
OF WHERE YOU ARE
BUT I'M GOING TO LOVE YOU
WHERE YOU ARE
AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT
WHERE WE CAN GO.
Betty: DON'T YOU THINK
THE HESITANCY
FOR THE CHURCH THOUGH IS,
WHEN YOU'RE DEALING
WITH THIS KIND OF SITUATION,
THAT THEY'RE SO AFRAID
OF WHAT OTHERS WILL THINK.
ARE YOU GOING INTO
THAT LIFESTYLE?
OR DISMISSING IT
AND JUST ACCEPTING IT.
SO HOW DOES THE CHURCH
APPROACH THIS
VERY DIFFICULT CHALLENGE?
Janet: THE SAD THING TO SAY
IS THE WAY WE APPROACH
EVERYTHING ELSE,
WITH THE COMPASSION OF LOVE.
IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY
SITTING IN CHURCH...
James: I THINK
WE DID THAT RIGHT.
WOULD YOU AGREE WE DID RIGHT
WITH THE WAY
WE APPROACHED THAT?
I STILL MEAN IT.
IF YOU'RE WATCHING, LOVE YOU.
I WANT YOUR FRIEND TO COME.
WE CARE.
I'M NOT GOING TO BEAT YOU UP
WE'RE GOING TO LIFT YOU UP.
Janet: BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT
TRYING TO CHANGE THEM.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT,
"HEY, I'M GOING TO LET YOU
SIT IN CHURCH WHERE THE WORD
IS POWERFUL, SHARPER
THAN A TWO-EDGED SWORD,
IT PIERCES THE HEART
OF THE MARROW.
IF THE WORD DON'T CHANGE YOU
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO
BECAUSE IT IS THE TRUTH."
James: I'M GOING TO LOVE THEM
WHERE THEY ARE.
Betty: DON'T TREAT THEM
LIKE AN OUTCAST.
Janet: NO. IT'S WRONG
BUT YOU KNOW WHO HELPED ME
WHEN I CAME BACK TO THE LORD?
IT WAS THE CHURCH.
WHEN I WALKED INTO THAT CHURCH
I DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THIS.
MY GOD, IT'S AMAZING
WHAT 18 YEARS CAN DO.
BUT THEY LOVED ME
RIGHT WHERE I WAS.
I LOOKED JUST LIKE A MAN.
JUST THE WAY
YOU'RE SITTING THERE TODAY,
I LOOKED JUST LIKE A MAN.
AND THESE WOMEN IN THE CHURCH
IN THIS BIBLE STUDY
JUST TOOK ME UNDER THEIR WING.
EIGHT MONTHS LATER
ONE OF THE FAMILIES
CAME TO ME AND SAID,
"WOULD YOU COME
AND LIVE WITH US?"
SO I WENT AND LIVED
WITH THIS FAMILY FOR A YEAR
AND THAT'S WHERE I LEARNED
HOW A HUSBAND TREATS HIS WIFE.
James: WAS THIS UP
IN MINNESOTA?
Janet: THIS WAS IN MINNESOTA.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY,
AFTER 18 YEARS OF BEING OUT
OF THAT LIFE TO GET MARRIED.
GOD, BRING ME A HUSBAND.
James: YOU'D BE HAPPY
TO GET MARRIED TO A GUY?
Janet: I'M SO EXCITED.
[Laughter]
ONE DAY IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
AND I'M GOING
TO BE SO EXCITED.
James: LET'S JUST PAUSE HERE.
LORD, I JUST PRAY FOR JANET,
THAT YOU WOULD SEND
THAT PERSON, LORD.
AND DON'T SEND A BUNCH
OF SPOOKY PEOPLE.
OKAY, GOD?
DON'T SEND A BUNCH
OF RELIGIOUS PEOPLE.
SEND SOMEBODY
IN LOVE WITH JESUS,
THAT'S THE REAL DEAL
RELATIONSHIP.
LORD, LET HER FIND THAT PERSON
THAT YOU DESIGNED FOR HER
AND HER FOR THEM;
IN JESUS' NAME.
AND SHE WOULD BE
THE HAPPIEST THING
YOU EVER HAD IN YOUR LIFE.
YOU SEEK GOD, HIS WILL,
ONLY GOD CAN DO THIS.
THIS PROBABLY MIGHT BE
OUR NEW DATING SERVICE
HERE ON LIFE TODAY.
BUT SEE I WANT THAT FOR YOU.
Janet: I DO TOO.
James: I TELL EVERY GIRL,
I SAID THIS TO A LITTLE GIRL
WORKING ON THE GOLF CART
THAT BRINGS THE LITTLE THINGS
AROUND FOR PEOPLE
WHO ARE THIRSTY.
I USUALLY JUST GET
A CUP OF ICE.
BUT THE POINT IS,
THAT REALLY IS WHAT I GET.
SO I GIVE THEM SOME MONEY
FOR THE CUP OF ICE.
BUT I ASKED ONE OF THEM
THE OTHER DAY
IF SHE WAS OUT OF SCHOOL.
"YES."
"ARE YOU DATING?"
"NOT REALLY."
I SAID,
"YOU WANT TO GET MARRIED?"
"YES."
I SAID, "LET ME JUST PRAY
GOD WILL GIVE YOU SOMEBODY
THAT WILL LOVE JESUS MORE
THAN HE WILL EVER LOVE YOU
SO THAT HE WILL KNOW HOW
TO LOVE YOU THE WAY
YOU NEED TO BE LOVED
AND WANT TO BE LOVED."
AND I PRAY THAT FOR EVERYONE
BECAUSE I WANT THAT FOR THEM.
SO I JUST PRAYED FOR YOU.
I PRAYED IT FOR YOU BACK HERE
BEFORE WE CAME OUT HERE.
Janet: YOU KNOW WHAT I WANT
THOSE WHO ARE LIVING
A HOMOSEXUAL LIFE TO KNOW?
THAT IT'S NOT
A DEATH SENTENCE.
THAT GOD STILL LOVES THEM.
HE IS NOT LOOKING DOWN
JUDGING THEM.
GOD WANTS
WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM.
GOD DOES WANT THEM
TO COME OUT OF HOMOSEXUALITY,
NOT TO GO INTO
HETEROSEXUAL LIFE,
BUT TO WALK IN HOLINESS.
I KNOW THAT WHAT HE'S DONE
FOR ME HE'S GOING TO DO
FOR THEM AS WELL.
I CAN TELL ANYBODY
WHO CALLS OUR MINISTRY
THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOVE YOU
JUST WHERE YOU ARE.
THAT'S WHY I HAVE GAYS
AND LESBIANS FOLLOWING ME
ON FACEBOOK AND TWITTER
BECAUSE THEY'VE SEEN
THE COMPASSION THAT I HAVE
IN MY HEART
BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND
WHERE THEY'VE BEEN.
AND I WON'T LET ANYBODY
BEAT DOWN SOMEBODY THAT'S
LIVING A HOMOSEXUAL LIFE
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
ANY RIGHT TO DO THAT.
James: ARE YOU WILLING TO GO
AND SPEAK IN CHURCHES AND
HELP THEM LEARN HOW TO MAYBE
APPROACH THIS SITUATION
AND SET UP PROGRAMS?
Janet: THAT'S WHAT I DO.
James: AND YOU'RE IN THE
DALLAS/FORT WORTH AREA NOW?
Janet: I AM. PRAISE THE LORD.
James: AND YOUR WEBSITE AGAIN,
WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT
ON THE SCREEN.
Janet:
JANETBOYNESMINISTRIES.COM.
James: THEY CAN GET THIS BOOK,
I BET ON THE WEBSITE.
THEY CAN GET IT
IN THE BOOKSTORES.
BUT DO YOU FEEL LIKE
YOU HELP PARENTS,
GRANDPARENTS, FAMILY MEMBERS,
CHURCH MEMBERS KNOW HOW
TO APPROACH THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE IN THIS PARTICULAR
PROCESS OF WHAT WE MIGHT CALL
BONDAGE OR DEFEAT,
BUT THEY MIGHT CALL IT
JUST COMING OUT
AND GETTING HONEST,
THAT YOU CAN REALLY GIVE US
SOME INSIGHT TO THE CHURCH
AND TO FAMILY MEMBERS
AS THEY GO THROUGH THE BOOK?
Janet: IN THAT BOOK
WE'RE DEALING WITH
THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
YES.
James: AND YOU'RE WILLING
THOUGH TO ALSO SPEAK
AND SHARE WITH CHURCHES.
YOU'RE HAPPY TO TRY
TO SCHEDULE THAT
AND BE A HELP
OR MEET WITH GROUPS
THAT WANT TO KNOW
HOW WE CAN BE MORE EFFECTIVE?
Janet: THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
James: WELL,
I SEE YOU AS A MIRACLE.
I SAW THAT MIRACLE
WHEN YOU CAME HERE YEARS AGO.
YOU SAID YOU THOUGHT
MAYBE 2009
IS WHEN YOU WERE HERE?
I STILL SEE THE BEAUTY
OF THE LORD IN YOU.
I'M REALLY PROUD OF YOU.
I'M PROUD OF YOUR JOURNEY,
I'M PROUD OF YOUR DESIRE
TO HELP; SO PLEASED
WITH THE LOVE THAT FLOWS OUT,
THE UNDERSTANDING THAT GOD
HAS GIVEN YOU AND THE FACT
THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE IT.
WOULD YOU SAY THANKS TO GOD
AND THANKS TO JANET
FOR BEING AVAILABLE?
[Applause]
I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU
TO GO TO THE WEBSITE
AND FIND OUT HOW YOU COULD
GET THE OPPORTUNITY FOR HER
TO COME AND HELP YOU
IN ANY WAY
COMMUNICATE WITH HER.
GET THE BOOK.
BOY, THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE
THAT ARE ASKING THE QUESTIONS
THAT YOU DEAL WITH EFFECTIVELY
BECAUSE YOU DO,
YOU HAVE A GIFT.
YOU HAVE A GIFT
TO COMMUNICATE.
LOVE RADIATES FROM YOU.
I'M JUST SO THANKFUL
THAT HERE YOU WERE HERE
LIKE EIGHT YEARS AGO
AND THE WALK IS THERE
AND THE STEADFASTNESS
AND THE COMMITMENT --
AND THE JOY
BECAUSE WE CAN SEE IT.
WE THANK YOU.
DO YOU KNOW
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO,
OUR VIEWERS,
WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST
TO RESCUE CHILDREN
AND WOMEN AND SOMETIMES BOYS
FROM SEXUAL TRAFFICKING
WHERE THEY'VE BEEN TAKEN
AS PRISONERS.
I'M JUST ASKING YOU PLEASE,
WHEN YOU LOOK AT A SITUATION
AND YOU KNOW IT'S REAL,
JUST SAY GOD,
WHAT CAN I DO
TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE THERE?
NOW UNDERSTAND, THESE ARE
NOT PEOPLE WHO ARE TRAPPED
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE.
THEY ARE NOT IN SOMETHING
THEY WANT TO BE IN.
THEY'RE SLAVES.
PREDATORS HAVE
TAKEN THEM PRISONER.
BETTY, YOU HAVE MENTIONED
THAT THEY'RE LOCKED UP
AGAINST THEIR WILL.
THEY'RE HELD CAPTIVE,
THEIR FAMILIES THREATENED,
THEY'RE THREATENED,
THEY'RE BEATEN,
BUT THEY'VE ALSO GOTTEN
THEM ADDICTED TO DRUGS.
THEY GIVE THEM DRUGS
SO IF THEY WANT TO GET
THAT NEXT FIX THAT THEY
NOW BECOME DEPENDENT ON
YOU HAVE TO KEEP DOING
WHAT WE SAY.
AND ONE OF THE BIG THREATS IS
THEY WILL SAY TO THESE GIRLS,
"NOW YOU REMEMBER.
YOU DO WHAT WE SAY.
WE KNOW WHERE YOUR SISTER IS
-- YOUR LITTLE SISTER.
WE'RE GOING TO KILL HER
IF YOU DON'T DO THIS."
AND THEY KNOW THEY MEAN IT
BECAUSE THIS IS
THE KIND OF PEOPLE
THAT TAKE THEM CAPTIVE.
BUT LISTEN TO ME.
LOVE NEVER FAILS.
WHEN IT IS RELEASED
WITH PURPOSE AND DIRECTION
AND YIELDED TO GOD,
PEOPLE ARE IN PLACE,
MIRACLES OCCUR
AND YOU'RE THE ONE
THAT LAUNCHED THE MIRACLES.
NOW WATCH
BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING
TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.
GOD'S GOING TO USE YOU
TO SET PEOPLE FREE.
Kirie: ROW AFTER ROW
OF BROTHELS AND JUST --
I'VE LOST COUNT OF
HOW MANY GIRLS I'VE SEEN.
THEY JUST SIT
IN LITTLE BENCHES
WITH SOME MAN
WATCHING OVER THEM.
I DON'T KNOW
WHAT IS WORSE
THAN THIS.
WHERE DO THEY GO
THAT'S WORSE THAN THIS?
THEIR SITUATIONS
ARE UNTHINKABLE.
THEY'VE ALL BEEN
SOLD BY SOMEONE
INTO THE SEX
TRAFFICKING BUSINESS.
THEIR LIVES HAVE
BEEN TORN APART.
THEIR LIVES
HAVE BEEN CRUSHED
AND ON A DAILY BASIS,
EVERY ONE OF THEM,
WITHOUT EXCEPTION
ARE BEATEN.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING
THAT THEY CHOSE.
THEY WERE FORCED INTO IT.
THEY WERE TAKEN
AS YOUNG CHILDREN.
THEY KNOW NOTHING ELSE
BUT TO BE A PROSTITUTE.
THEY DON'T WANT IT.
THEY DON'T LIKE IT.
THEY'RE BROKEN OVER IT.
THEY'RE ASHAMED.
BUT THEY DON'T KNOW
WHAT ELSE TO DO.
THEY'RE STILL CHAINED
TO THEIR PAST.
AND THAT'S WHAT
WE WANT TO DO,
WE WANT TO BREAK THOSE
CHAINS FROM THEIR PAST.
WE WANT TO SHOW THEM THAT
THEY CAN WALK OUT OF BONDAGE.
THEY CAN
FIND A LIFE
OUTSIDE OF
PROSTITUTION.
IT ISN'T EASY
BUT IT CAN
BE DONE.
James: GOD BLESS YOU, KIRIE.
KIRIE JAMES IS ONE
OF OUR SWEETEST FRIENDS.
SHE WENT WITH US
TO CHERNOBYL IN THE UKRAINE.
AND HOLDING
THE LITTLE CHILDREN THERE
AND TAKING CARE OF THEM,
SHE GOT A VERY DEADLY DISEASE
THAT NEARLY KILLED HER
AND KEPT HER HOSPITALIZED
FOR OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS
OFF AND ON.
AND YET, THERE SHE IS
BACK ON THE MISSION FIELD
BECAUSE SHE IS A MISSIONARY,
AS A GRANDMOTHER,
AND A MOM, A HOMEMAKER.
AND YOU SAY WHY?
-- BECAUSE SHE'S SEEN
WHAT LOVE DOES
IN IMPOSSIBLE SITUATIONS.
SHE GOES INTO THE PIT OF HELL
AS A MOTHER AND A GRANDMOTHER
TO TRY TO LIFT THEM OUT
TO SEE THEM HAVE THE JOY
THAT SHE'S SEEN
WITH HER OWN GRANDCHILDREN
WHAT LOVE DOES.
WHAT DOES YOUR HEART SAY
WHEN YOU LISTEN TO
ONE OF YOUR CLOSEST FRIENDS
OVER THERE
POINTING TO THE NEED
THAT LOVE CAN MEET?
Betty: FIRST OF ALL,
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU,
KIRIE, FOR GOING OVER THERE,
FOR HAVING SUCH LOVE
IN YOUR HEART
THAT YOU WANTED TO REACH OUT
AND OFFER HOPE
TO THESE PRECIOUS CHILDREN
THAT DIDN'T ASK FOR THE
SITUATIONS THAT THEY'RE IN.
A LOT OF THEM WERE LIED TO,
TOLD THAT THEY WOULD HAVE
A GOOD JOB, JUST GO WITH THEM
AND THEY WOULD MAKE
LOTS OF MONEY
AND PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILY.
THEY WENT THINKING THAT
THERE WAS SOME HOPE THERE.
AND WHEN THEY GET
TO WHERE THEY TAKE THEM,
THEY LOCK THEM UP
LIKE ANIMALS.
THEY BEAT THEM,
THEY ABUSE THEM,
THEY SELL THEM
AND THEY TREAT THEM
LIKE ANIMALS --
WORSE THAN ANIMALS.
AND THESE PRECIOUS
LITTLE CHILDREN,
WE'VE HEARD SOME OF THEM SAY,
"I JUST WANT MY MAMA.
I JUST WANT MY MAMA."
CAN YOU IMAGINE?
THESE ARE PRECIOUS
LITTLE CHILDREN.
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY
THEY'RE IN THESE SITUATIONS
BUT THERE THEY ARE.
I'M SO GRATEFUL
FOR SOME OF YOU,
SO MANY OF YOU THAT HAVE
REACHED OUT AND HELPED
IN THESE SITUATIONS BEFORE
BUT WE NEED YOUR HELP AGAIN.
THERE ARE SO MANY MORE
CHILDREN OUT THERE
THAT ARE CRYING OUT,
"MAMA! SOMEBODY HELP ME!
SOMEBODY CARE.
HAVE I BEEN FORGOTTEN?"
AND THEY THINK THERE IS
NO WAY OUT BUT THERE IS.
IT'S BECAUSE OF THE LOVE
THAT YOU HAVE FOR THEM;
THE LOVE OF GOD
THAT REACHES OUT TO THEM
THAT GIVES THEM HOPE.
SO PLEASE JOIN WITH US.
LET'S MAKE A SAFE PLACE
FOR THESE CHILDREN TO GO TO
AND TO BE CHILDREN
AS THEY SHOULD BE.
James: AND WE CAN
ACTUALLY DO THAT.
THE MISSIONARIES
HAVE PLANTED THEIR LIVES
IN THE MIDST
OF THIS SUFFERING AND PAIN.
THEY'VE LEFT THEIR COMFORT.
IT IS AMAZING GRACE
THAT LEADS THEM THERE.
BUT THEY NEED TO BE ENABLED.
RIGHT NOW THE MISSION WORKERS
HAVE TOLD US
WE CAN RESCUE 5,000,
THAT'S WHAT WE CAN RESCUE
AND WE HAVE THE FACILITIES
EITHER RENTED
OR THAT WE HAVE BUILT
OR ARE IN THE PROCESS
OF BUILDING,
TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.
IT AVERAGES $128
TO RESCUE ONE.
THAT IS NOT MUCH MONEY
TO WORK A MIRACLE
THAT CHANGES
EVERYTHING FOR THEM.
SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU
TO DO RIGHT NOW
IS TO GO ONLINE
TO THE WEBSITE THERE
OR TO DIAL THE NUMBER;
TAKE YOUR BANKCARD
AND THEN THIS IS WHAT
I WANT YOU TO PRAY ABOUT:
$128 WILL RESCUE ONE.
IT CHANGES EVERYTHING.
THAT WILL COVER THE COST.
WE HAVE TARGETED 5,000
THAT THE MISSIONARIES SAY
WE CAN HANDLE RIGHT NOW
BUT WE NEED THE RESOURCES.
CAN YOU DO THAT?
LET ME TELL YOU
ABOUT A MIRACLE.
SOME VERY CARING CHRISTIANS
HAVE COME TOGETHER AND SAID,
"WE'LL MATCH $200,000 --
WE'LL MATCH WHAT YOU GIVE."
WHICH MEANS INSTEAD OF $128
RESCUING ONE, IT RESCUES TWO.
WE ALSO, AND
I EMPHASIZE THIS TO PEOPLE
WHO ARE ABLE TO DO IT,
$1280 RESCUES TEN
BUT NOW IT IS ACTUALLY 20.
IF YOU CAN GIVE AT THAT LEVEL,
I BELIEVE YOU WANT TO
AND I BELIEVE YOU WILL
AS AN ANSWER TO PRAYER
TO MEET A NEED,
A LEGITIMATE NEED,
AND TO SEE A MIRACLE.
WOULD YOU RIGHT NOW PLEASE
VERY PRAYERFULLY
WITH A BROKEN HEART
AND WITH LOVE,
WOULD YOU REACH OUT
AND CHANGE A LIFE TODAY?
THAT'S WHAT LOVE DOES.
GO ON THE WEBSITE YOU SEE,
TAKE YOUR BANKCARD,
USE IT LIKE A CHECK
OR DIAL THE NUMBER
AND USE THAT CARD
LIKE A CHECK.
MAKE THE GIFT
GOD PUTS ON YOUR HEART.
REMEMBER THIS,
THE GREATEST GIFT WE CAN GIVE
IS THE LIFE AND LOVE OF GOD.
WOULD DO YOU THAT RIGHT NOW?
WE HAVE SOME GIFTS
TO SEND YOU TO SAY THANK YOU
AND TO BLESS YOU.
AND IF YOU COULD HELP US
RESCUE 10, NOW 20,
MAKE THAT SPECIAL GIFT.
WE'LL SAY THANK YOU
AND YOU'LL BE PART
OF A MIRACLE.
THANKS FOR DOING IT.
Announcer:
INNOCENT CHILDREN
AND YOUNG PEOPLE
LONGING TO BE LOVED
AND CARED FOR
ARE BEING ABDUCTED
AND SOLD
AT THE HANDS
OF VIOLENT PREDATORS,
THEIR SPIRIT
AND BODIES BROKEN
UNDER HORRIFIC EMOTIONAL
AND PHYSICAL ABUSE.
THROUGH MISSION:
RESCUE LIFE
YOU CAN REACH OUT
TO SAVE CHILDREN
VULNERABLE TO
SEX TRAFFICKERS.
YOU CAN HELP RESCUE
THOSE ALREADY ENSLAVED
AND YOU CAN HELP
RESTORE THEIR LIVES
AND GIVE THEM
A FUTURE.
NOW A GENEROUS OPPORTUNITY
OF A $200,000 MATCHING GIFT
MEANS YOUR GIFT OF $128
TO HELP RESCUE A CHILD
WILL BE MATCHED
TO HELP TWO CHILDREN.
YOUR $64 GIFT WILL BE MATCHED
TO HELP RESCUE ONE CHILD
FROM THE HORRORS
OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
AND A $32
RESCUE GIFT
WILL BE DOUBLED
TO $64.
WITH YOUR GIFT
WE WILL SEND YOU
JAMES ROBISON'S NEW BOOK,
LIVING AMAZED:
HOW DIVINE ENCOUNTERS
CAN CHANGE YOUR LIFE.
AS YOU READ THESE
INSPIRING STORIES
YOU'LL LEARN HOW
TO LIVE AMAZED
IN THE PRESENCE OF
GOD 24 HOURS A DAY.
WITH YOUR GIFT OF $100
OR MORE, YOU'LL RECEIVE
JAMES' NEW BOOK,
ALONG WITH THE COMPANION,
AMAZED JOURNAL
SO YOU CAN RECORD ACCOUNTS
IN YOUR OWN LIFE
WHERE YOU'RE AMAZED
AT GOD'S GOODNESS.
FINALLY, PLEASE CONSIDER
A GIFT OF $1280
WHICH WILL NOW
HELP RESCUE 20 CHILDREN
AND YOU MAY REQUEST
OUR BEAUTIFUL NEW
"DETERMINED EAGLE"
BRONZE SCULPTURE.
PLEASE CALL, WRITE, OR MAKE
YOUR SECURE GIFT ONLINE TODAY.
James: BETTY AND I SAY
IN BEHALF OF PEOPLE
YOU'VE RESCUED, SET FREE,
MANY OF THE CHILDREN
THAT WE STARTED YEARS AGO
AND RESCUED,
THEY'RE NOW PROFESSORS
IN UNIVERSITIES
AND THEY'RE IN LOVE WITH GOD.
MANY OF THEM HAVE
THEIR OWN FAMILY NOW.
MANY OF THEM WORK
AT A WONDERFUL TRADE
BECAUSE OF THE LOVE OF GOD
THROUGH YOU.
I WANT TO SEND YOU THE BOOK,
LIVING AMAZED BECAUSE GOD
WANTS US ALL TO LIVE AMAZED
TO SAY THANK YOU.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE
JANET'S BOOK AND YOU SAY,
"WELL JAMES, WOULD YOU MIND
SENDING IT TO US BECAUSE WE
FACE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES
THAT SHE ADDRESSES
THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH
IN SITUATIONS
WHERE WE LOVE THE PEOPLE
OR THE FAMILY MEMBERS."
WE'LL SEND IT TO YOU.
YOU JUST HELP US REACH OUT
TO SOMEONE AND SAY,
"WOULD YOU MIND SENDING ME
JANET'S BOOK TOO?"
SURE WE WILL TO SAY THANK YOU.
WOULD YOU SAY THANKS TO JANET
FOR BEING A WITNESS
FOR CHRIST?
THANK YOU, JANET.
THANK YOU
FOR YOUR FAITHFULNESS,
BEING AVAILABLE TO GOD.
THANK YOU
FOR WATCHING LIFE TODAY.
AND ABOVE ALL, THANK YOU
FOR SHARING HIS LIFE
AND HIS LOVE EVERY DAY.
GOD BLESS YOU!
YOU CAN LIVE AMAZED!
♪
♪
♪
Announcer:
NEXT WEEK ON LIFE TODAY!
WHEN ESTHER FLEECE
WAS TEN YEARS OLD
SHE WAS CALLED
TO TESTIFY REGARDING
HER MENTAL ILL FATHER
WHO ABANDONED HER
THE YEAR BEFORE!
>> LIFE TODAY IS MADE
POSSIBLE BY THE SUPPORTERS OF
LIFE OUTREACH INTERNATIONAL.
YOUR GIFT WILL BE USED EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE EXEMPT PURPOSES OF LIFE.
THE MINISTRY FEATURES
SPECIFIC OUTREACHES
AS EXAMPLES OF THE PROGRAMS
IT SUPPORTS AND CONDUCTS.
GIFTS ARE CONSIDERED
TO BE WITHOUT RESTRICTION
AS TO USE UNLESS EXPLICITLY
STIPULATED BY THE DONOR.
THE MINISTRY IS A MEMBER
OF THE E.C.F.A.