THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING JUST AGAINST THE CATHOLICS.

NO, WE'RE TALKING HERE ABOUT RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.

Announcer: COMING UP, FOX NEWS ANALYST, FATHER JONATHAN MORRIS

UNCOVERS THE ATTACK ON OUR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.

JAMES AND BETTY, I REALLY DO BELIEVE

THAT WE'RE AT A CRITICAL POINT RIGHT NOW IN OUR COUNTRY.

IF WE ALLOW A GOVERNMENT TO COME IN

AND SAY YOU HAVE TO DO THIS IN THE NAME OF THE COMMON GOOD,

WE HAVE TO FIGHT BACK.

Announcer: DEFENDING RELIGIOUS LIBERTY BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE -- NEXT!

§

James: IT IS A JOY

TO COME INTO YOUR HOME AND

TO SHARE WITH YOU LIFE TODAY.

I'M JAMES ROBISON.

BETTY AND I ARE THRILLED

TO HAVE A VERY SPECIAL GUEST.

I'M HOLDING SOMETHING

IN MY HAND THAT I THINK

IS VERY SIGNIFICANT.

IN 1980, AT REALLY,

THE REQUEST OF BILLY GRAHAM

AND CAMPUS CRUSADE FOUNDER,

BILL BRIGHT,

BILLY CALLED A PRAYER MEETING.

HE ASKED BILL TO KIND OF

MAKE SOME OF THE CALLS.

THERE WERE ABOUT

EIGHT OR TEN OF US

BILLY FELT LED CALLED

TO PRAY FOR OUR NATION.

AFTER THAT PRAYER MEETING,

I WAS LED TO GET CHRISTIANS

TO UNDERSTAND

THE IMPORTANCE OF VOTING

AND I DESIGNED THIS PIN.

IT WAS THE COVER OF MANY OF

THE NATIONAL NEWS MAGAZINES.

IT WAS CALLED

THE CHRISTIAN VOTE PIN,

A LAPEL PIN.

IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PIN

WHERE YOU SEE THE WORD VOTE

AND THE T IS A CROSS,

AND IT IS OBVIOUS

IT IS A CHRISTIAN VOTE PIN.

WHAT I SAID TO PEOPLE

ALL OVER AMERICA

THAT WE NEED TO BE INSPIRED,

INFORMED AND INVOLVED.

INSPIRED BY WHAT WE HAVE,

THE PRICE PAID TO PROVIDE IT,

THE PRINCIPLES UPON WHICH

THIS NATION WAS FOUNDED

AND ESTABLISHED,

AND THE BLESSINGS

THAT CAME FROM IT.

AND THEN WE NEEDED TO BE

WELL INFORMED ABOUT

THE ISSUES WE FACE,

THE THREATS, OUR SECURITY,

TO THE PRINCIPLES UPON WHICH

OUR FOUNDATION WAS BUILT

AND ESTABLISHED, AND THROUGH

WHICH WE WERE BLESSED.

THEN WE NEEDED TO BE INVOLVED.

WE NEEDED TO AFFECT

LEADERSHIP AND DIRECTION,

AND CHURCH PEOPLE

AND CHRISTIAN PEOPLE DID.

NOW WE MADE A MISTAKE

AND I TALK ABOUT THAT

IN THE BOOK, INDIVISIBLE.

IT'S NOW AVAILABLE

IN PAPERBACK;

YOU CAN GO AND GET IT

IN THE BOOKSTORES

OR GO ONLINE AND GET IT.

OF COURSE, WE SEND IT

TO THOSE OF YOU WHO HELP US

ACCOMPLISH VARIOUS MISSIONS.

ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE

TO ENDORSE THE BOOK

AND ENCOURAGE US

IS A MAN THAT I BELIEVE

IS A POWERFUL INFLUENCE.

AND I'M GOING TO TALK TO HIM

AS A CATHOLIC PRIEST

AND A LEADER,

SENSITIVE TO GOD

AND CONCERNED,

I WANT TO TALK TO HIM

ABOUT HOW WE CAN BEST EFFECT

THE DIRECTION OF OUR COUNTRY.

WELCOME ONE OF OUR VERY

GOOD FRIENDS AND SOMEONE

WE GREATLY RESPECT,

FATHER JONATHAN MORRIS

WHO IS OFTEN SEEN ON FOX NEWS.

JONATHAN, GOOD TO SEE YOU.

Jonathan: JAMES,

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

BETTY, GOOD TO SEE YOU.

James: WE HAD A DISCUSSION.

WE WON'T GO INTO DEPTH

BUT I TOLD YOU I GOT SCOLDED

BECAUSE I JUST CALLED YOU

FATHER SO PEOPLE QUOTED ME

THE SCRIPTURE WHERE JESUS

SAID, "DON'T CALL

ANY MAN 'FATHER.' "

Jonathan: YOU CAN

JUST CALL ME JONATHAN.

James: I DON'T EVEN LET

ANYBODY CALL ME REVEREND.

BUT IT'S FINE. I LIKE TITLES.

I LIKE BISHOPS AND ELDERS

AND ALL THAT'S FINE; I DON'T

HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT

BUT SOME DO SO WE'RE TRYING

TO BE PEACEMAKERS.

AND YOU'RE SO GRACIOUS.

I DON'T THINK I CAN DESCRIBE

ADEQUATELY HOW CONCERNED

I AM ABOUT OUR COUNTRY.

YOU, AS CATHOLICS REALLY

HAVE EXEMPLIFIED

WHAT JAY AND I TALKED ABOUT

IN INDIVISIBLE,

HOW YOU CAN'T SEPARATE

THE SOCIAL AND THE ECONOMIC,

AND HOW IF YOU ASSAULT ONE

FAITH GROUP IN A DIRECT WAY

YOU'RE NOT ONLY ATTACKING

FAITH AND RELIGION

BUT YOU'RE ATTACKING FREEDOM

-- EVERYBODY'S FREEDOM.

SHORTLY AFTER THE BOOK

CAME OUT WELL HERE COMES

THIS INCREDIBLE DECISION TO

PUT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT

OF PRESSURE ON CATHOLICS

TO LINE UP TO CERTAIN

GOVERNMENT PREREQUISITES,

WHICH REALLY HAD TO DO WITH

ULTIMATELY YOU WERE GOING

TO BE PAYING FOR SOMETHING

THAT VIOLATED YOUR CONSCIENCE

IN THAT YOU WOULD BE OFFERING

FAR MORE THAN WHAT SOME WOULD

CALL A CONTRACEPTION SERVICE

BUT ABORTING CHILDREN

WHEN A PREGNANCY OCCURRED,

WHICH WE ALL BELIEVE,

AS PEOPLE WHO SAY

WE LOVE GOD AND VALUE LIFE

THAT LIFE IS PRECIOUS,

INNOCENT LIFE IS CERTAINLY

WORTHY OF BEING PROTECTED,

AND THERE IS NO MORE INNOCENT

HELPLESS THAN IN THE WOMB,

AND HERE YOU WERE

BEING CALLED TO VIOLATE

YOUR CONSCIENCE BECAUSE OF

THE LAW OF THE GOVERNMENT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU FELT?

Jonathan: YES! ABSOLUTELY.

THERE IS A LOT

OF CONFUSION ABOUT THIS

IN OUR COUNTRY TODAY.

I THINK MOSTLY BECAUSE

THERE IS A GREAT WILL --

GOOD WILL AMONG

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

RECOGNIZING THAT

WE DON'T WANT THE CHURCH

TO BE TELLING THE GOVERNMENT

HOW THEY SHOULD ELECT

THEIR LEADERS FOR EXAMPLE,

SAYING, "HEY, ELECT THIS GUY

BECAUSE HE IS GOING

TO HELP US."

"ELECT THIS LADY BECAUSE

SHE IS GOING TO HELP US."

WE DON'T WANT THAT.

AND WE DON'T WANT

THE GOVERNMENT EITHER

TO BE COMING IN AND SAYING,

"HEY, CHURCH,

THIS IS HOW YOU'VE GOT TO

BE RUNNING YOUR HOSPITALS,

YOUR CHURCHES, ETC."

A LOT OF GOOD WILL --

BUT THEN THERE IS CONFUSION

BECAUSE ALSO, SEPARATION

OF CHURCH AND STATE,

THEREFORE WHY IS IT THAT

THE CHURCH WOULD BE SOMEHOW

EXERCISING ITS AUTHORITY

OR ITS POWER OR ITS INFLUENCE

OVER DECISIONS

OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

LIKE THE HEALTH AND HUMAN

SERVICE MANDATE?

WE SAY, "NO,

THE CHURCH SHOULD BE

STAYING OUT OF GOVERNMENT."

NO! THERE SHOULD BE

A SEPARATION BETWEEN

CHURCH AND STATE

BUT THERE SHOULD NOT

BE SEPARATION BETWEEN

OUR FAITH AND OUR POLICIES

IN GOVERNMENT.

FAITH NEEDS TO NOT ONLY

HELP AND ENCOURAGE US

IN THE LIVING

OF OUR POLITICAL LIFE

BUT IT SHOULD INFLUENCE TOO

THE WAY IN WHICH WE STAND UP

WHEN THE GOVERNMENT SAYS,

"WE'RE GOING TO

INTRUDE UPON YOU

AND TELL YOU HOW YOU SHOULD

BE RUNNING YOUR CHURCHES

OR HOW YOU SHOULD BE ACTING

AS A CHURCH BODY."

AND WE CAN'T STAND FOR THAT.

THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING

JUST AGAINST THE CATHOLICS;

NO WE'RE TALKING HERE

ABOUT RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.

WE'RE TALKING HERE ABOUT

ANY GOVERNMENT,

NO MATTER WHAT ADMINISTRATION

IT HAPPENS TO BE.

IF WE ALLOW A GOVERNMENT

TO COME IN AND SAY,

"YOU HAVE TO DO THIS IN

THE NAME OF THE COMMON GOOD,"

WE HAVE TO FIGHT BACK.

AND IT WAS WONDERFUL TO SEE

EVANGELICALS, PROTESTANTS,

JEWISH, MUSLIM, ORTHODOX

COMING AND SAYING,

"HEY, RIGHT NOW

IT MIGHT BE THE CATHOLICS

BUT IF WE LET THEM COME

AFTER THE CATHOLICS, WHO

ARE THEY GOING AFTER NEXT?"

JAMES AND BETTY,

I REALLY DO BELIEVE

WE ARE AT A CRITICAL POINT

RIGHT NOW IN OUR COUNTRY.

IT HAS TO DO

WITH WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE

GOING TO BAND TOGETHER.

I DON'T MEAN JUST

EVANGELICALS AND PROTESTANTS,

I MEAN PEOPLE WHO RECOGNIZE

THAT RELIGION AND FAITH

HAS SOMETHING TO SAY

IN OUR SOCIETY.

A CULTURE,

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

WITHOUT FAITH,

WITHOUT RELIGION

IS GOING TO BE

A SOULLESS NATION.

IT IS GOING TO BE

A SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS.

LITTLE BY LITTLE, WHEN IT

IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

TELLING A CHURCH

TO DO THIS OR TO DO THAT

OR JUST US BEING QUIET

BECAUSE WE WANT TO FIT IN,

OR BY CONFUSION

OVER A PRINCIPLE

OF SUPPOSED SEPARATION

OF CHURCH AND STATE,

OR OR FAITH AND STATE --

WELL THEN, WE'RE GOING

TO ALLOW OUR CHILDREN

AND GRANDCHILDREN TO BECOME

VERY DIFFERENT PEOPLE

THAN WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE.

Betty: OR SIMPLY BECAUSE WE

DON'T WANT TO ROCK THE BOAT.

WE LIKE OUR COMFORT ZONE

AND WE DON'T WANT

TO BE UNCOMFORTABLE.

AS I HEARD YOU SHARE

ON AN EARLIER SHOW,

WE NEED TO LEARN

TO BE COURAGEOUS

AND STAND FOR WHAT

WE BELIEVE IN OUR HEARTS,

GOD'S FOUNDATION

AND GOD'S PRINCIPLES.

Jonathan: JAMES,

ONE OF THE PRINCIPLES

I LOVE THAT YOU BROUGHT OUT

IN INDIVISIBLE,

THIS PRINCIPLE THAT

NOT MANY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT,

MAYBE BECAUSE IT'S A BIG WORD

BUT OF SUBSIDIARITY --

SUBSIDIARITY.

THAT'S A PRINCIPLE THAT

HELPS US UNDERSTAND

THAT A HIGHER LEVEL

OF GOVERNMENT OR OF SOCIETY

SHOULD NOT DO WHAT A LOWER

LEVEL OF SOCIETY OR GOVERNMENT

CAN DO FOR ITSELF.

VERY OFTEN,

I THINK THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

IN THIS WHOLE ISSUE

OF THE HEALTH MANDATE,

THE LAW, I THINK WE ARE SLOW

AT FIRST TO RECOGNIZE

THAT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN

YOU GIVE THIS MUCH POWER

TO A GOVERNMENT IN AN AREA

SO ESSENTIAL IN OUR LIVES

LIKE HEALTH CARE,

WHEN YOU DO THAT

AND YOU SAY, "GO AHEAD,

YOU'RE IN CHARGE NOW,"

AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO

IS YOU'RE GOING TO GET RID OF

THE LOWER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT

OF SOCIETY AND THE INFLUENCE

OF THAT FAITH

AND THAT FAMILY

AND THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS

CAN HAVE OVER THOSE AREAS.

IF WE ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN,

IF WE FORGET THE PRINCIPLE

OF SUBSIDIARITY

AND WE JUST SAY,

"DO IT FOR US, IT'S EASIER,"

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOTS

OF SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.

James: WELL, I THINK THAT

RIGHT NOW THERE REALLY IS

A CALL OF GOD ON EVERYONE

WHO CLAIMS TO BELIEVE

THAT FAITH IS IMPORTANT,

THAT FAMILY IS IMPORTANT,

AND THAT FREEDOM IS IMPORTANT

ARE GOING TO HAVE TO STAND UP

OR WE'RE GOING

TO LOSE ALL OF IT,

WE'RE GOING TO LOSE

THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPENLY

FREELY EXPRESS OUR FAITH,

TO EVEN HAVE THE FREEDOM

TO DISCUSS OUR DIFFERENCES,

PROTESTANT/CATHOLIC,

DO WE HAVE SOME DIFFERENCES?

COULD WE SEEK TRUTH?

COULD WE ALL STAND, LET'S SAY,

BEFORE THE LORD

AND BE TEACHABLE

BECAUSE WE EXPOSE ONE ANOTHER

TO ETERNAL TRUTHS THAT CAN

MOVE US IN A GOOD DIRECTION.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE FREEDOM

TO DO THAT THEN NOBODY

IS GOING TO BE CORRECTED

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE

THE RIGHT TO SPEAK

CORRECTIVE WORDS

TO OUR PARISHIONERS

AND TO OUR PEOPLE

AND TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC

OR TO OUR NATIONAL LEADERS

THEN WE'RE LOSING

THE GREATEST FREEDOM OF ALL,

THE VERY FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION

AND THE ABILITY

TO HOLD UP A STANDARD

TO WHICH YOU CAN REPAIR

AND THAT CAN CORRECT OUR WAYS

BECAUSE THERE IS

A RELIABLE STANDARD.

OUR FOUNDERS UNDERSTOOD THAT

AND THEY GAVE US

A SOLID FOUNDATION.

IT IS ERODING.

IT IS BEING CONSIDERED

AS SOMETHING THAT IS EVOLVING

AND IS BASICALLY BEING

SHOVED ASIDE AND DISCARDED

OR SO REINTERPRETED

THAT IT IS UNRECOGNIZABLE.

AND IT IS COSTING US

OUR PRECIOUS FREEDOMS

INCLUDING THE ABILITY

TO FREELY EXPRESS OUR FAITH.

Jonathan: ONE OF THE WAYS

THAT THIS IS BEING DONE,

I THINK WE HAVE TO BE

VERY CAREFUL OF THIS.

YOU HEAR NOW OFTEN, INSTEAD

OF JUST RELIGIOUS LIBERTY,

YOU HEAR FREEDOM OF WORSHIP --

FREEDOM OF WORSHIP.

YOU HEAR IN EVEN

GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS NOW,

RELIGIOUS LIBERTY

BEING SUBSTITUTED

FOR FREEDOM OF WORSHIP.

FREEDOM OF WORSHIP

IS A VERY, VERY SUBTLE BUT

VERY DANGEROUS REPLACEMENT --

James: COULD BE PAGAN

IDOLATERS' WORSHIP.

Jonathan: AND NOT ONLY THAT,

THEY'RE SAYING,

"TAKE YOUR FAITH

AND GO INTO A TEMPLE,

GO INTO A CHURCH

AND DO YOUR WORSHIP.

DO YOUR THING

AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY

TO GIVE THAT TO YOU.

THAT'S WHAT DEMOCRACY

IS ALL ABOUT."

BUT THAT IS NOT

WHAT THE FOUNDERS OF

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

HAD IN MIND WHEN THEY PUT

RIGHT AT THE VERY TOP

OF OUR RIGHTS

"RELIGIOUS LIBERTY."

THAT RELIGIOUS LIBERTY

HAS TO DO WITH A LOT MORE

THAN JUST WORSHIP.

IT HAS TO DO WITH IMPLEMENTING

THE VALUES THAT ARE

INSPIRED BY OUR FAITH

INTO OUR DAILY LIVES

AS WELL AS INTO THE WORKPLACE

AND INTO THE POLITICAL SPHERE.

James: WE CREATE

RIGHTEOUS LIVING.

THEY SAID THIS FOUNDATION,

THIS FRAMEWORK THEY GAVE US,

THIS GOVERNMENT,

THIS SYSTEM WAS ONLY FIT

FOR A RELIGIOUS

AND RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE.

THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES

THAT CAN PROTECT IT

AND PRESERVE IT.

Jonathan: THE DICTATORSHIP

OF RELATIVISM

IS ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING

AT THIS SAME DANGER.

IF SOMEBODY DOES NOT HAVE

THOSE STRONG RELIGIOUS

AND MORAL BELIEFS,

AND IF A COUNTRY,

IF A POPULATION,

IF A CITIZENRY

DOES NOT HAVE THOSE VALUES,

AND THEY GO OFF TO VOTE

WITH ALL OF THEIR RELATIVISM

THAT HEY, LISTEN,

NOTHING IS TRUE.

IT IS ALL EQUALLY AS GOOD.

WELL THEN THE RESULT OF THAT

IS GOING TO BE DICTATORSHIP

OF A DEMOCRACY

THAT HAS CHOSEN

A TOTALLY VALUELESS PLATFORM

FOR GOVERNMENT AND THAT

IS THE VERY WORST TYPE

OF DICTATORSHIP.

James: EVERYONE DOING

WHAT IS RIGHT

IN THEIR OWN EYES

AND PEOPLE PERISHING

FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE,

THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH

AND APPLIED TRUTH

HAS TRANSFORMING EFFECT,

IT AFFECTS EVERYBODY.

IF WE REALLY KNOW GOD

AND LOVE GOD

WE'RE GOING TO CARE

ABOUT OUR NEIGHBOR.

WE'RE GOING TO WANT

TO MEET NEEDS.

WE'RE GOING TO WORK IN A WAY

THAT IF GOVERNMENT GETS

INVOLVED IN MEETING NEEDS

THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT

IN A WAY THAT MAKES PEOPLE

ACCOUNTABLE AND RESPONSIBLE,

NOT JUST ENABLING THEM

TO BE DEPENDENT

UPON ANOTHER PHARAOH-TYPE

SYSTEM OF DEPENDENCE

ULTIMATELY LEADING TO BONDAGE.

WE'RE ACTUALLY REPEATING

WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

WE'RE FOLLOWING IN

THE FOOTSTEPS OF THOSE

OVER IN THE EUROPEAN

COUNTRIES RIGHT NOW.

WE CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING

AND WE'RE CHASING AFTER THEM.

AND MY PERSONAL FEELING IS

THAT UNLESS PROTESTANTS AND

CATHOLICS, PEOPLE OF FAITH,

PEOPLE WHO SAY

THEY BELIEVE IN GOD,

BELIEVE THE FAMILY

IS IMPORTANT, BELIEVE

THERE ARE SOME STANDARDS

THAT ARE RELIABLE,

UNLESS WE LITERALLY STAND UP

AND BECOME THAT LIGHT

THAT CAN'T BE HIDDEN,

THE CITY SET ON A HILL

THAT CANNOT, WILL NOT,

MUST NOT BE HIDDEN,

UNLESS WE DO IT I THINK

WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THE FUTURE

AND LOSE OUR FREEDOM.

TO ME THAT MEANS

THAT EVERY CATHOLIC,

EVERY PROTESTANT,

EVERY PERSON OF FAITH

NEEDS TO REGISTER TO VOTE

AND IF THEY REGISTER

THEY NEED TO VOTE AND

THEY NEED TO GET INFORMED

ABOUT THE ISSUES

AND THE PRINCIPLES

SO THAT WE DON'T KEEP

ACCEPTING POLICIES THAT ARE

BEING IMPOSED UPON PEOPLE

BY THOSE COMMITTED

TO AN ALL-CONTROLLING

GOVERNMENT SYSTEM,

A COLLECTIVISM ULTIMATELY

AND A DISTRIBUTION

OF EVERYBODY ELSE'S WEALTH

AT THE DISCRETION

OF WHOEVER IS IN POWER;

I THINK IF WE DON'T STAND

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED.

WE'RE LITERALLY GOING TO BE

IN A DITCH OF DESPAIR

AND DEFEAT AND DEPRESSION

UNLIKE ANYTHING

THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED

IN THIS NATION

AND PERHAPS IN HISTORY.

Jonathan: I AGREE.

AND I THINK WE NEED TEACHERS

TO STAND UP AND TO TEACH

BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT

OF CONFUSION OUT THERE

OF POLITICIANS USING

MORALISTIC TERMINOLOGY

TO SAY, "HEY LISTEN, WE NEED

TO TAKE CARE OF THE POOR

THEREFORE VOTE FOR US."

YES, WE NEED TO TAKE CARE

OF THE POOR

BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TOO

WHEN AT THE SAME TIME

YOU'RE NOT RESPECTING LIFE?

YOU'RE NOT RESPECTING

TRADITIONAL DEFINITION

OF MARRIAGE?

WHAT DOES IT MEAN

WHEN YOU SAY,

"VOTE FOR US BECAUSE

WE'RE THE MORALISTIC ONES"?

AT THE SAME TIME

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE, JAMES,

WE DO NOT ALLOW OURSELVES

AS CHRISTIANS TO BE CO-OPTED

BY ANY POLITICAL PARTY

TO SAY, "HEY, WE ARE

THE CHRISTIAN PARTY."

NO, NO, NO!

WE HAVE TO TEACH PRINCIPLES

AND SAY, "WHAT DOES IT MEAN

THAT YOU CAN SAY WE'RE GOING

TO TAKE CARE OF THE POOR

BUT YOU'RE NOT WILLING

TO TAKE CARE OF THE UNBORN?"

"WHAT DOES IT MEAN

THAT YOU'RE WILLING

TO TAKE CARE OF THE UNBORN

BUT YOU'RE NOT WILLING

TO TAKE CARE OF IMMIGRANTS?"

"WHAT DOES IT MEAN

THAT YOU'RE WILLING --."

AND RIGHT DOWN THE LINE.

AND WE HAVE TO TEACH,

WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN,

WE HAVE TO GIVE PRINCIPLES

AND WE HAVE TO DO IT

IN AN UNAFRAID WAY.

James: HERE'S WHAT

I WANT TO ASK YOU TO DO --.

DO YOU THINK WE CAN,

AS PROTESTANTS AND CATHOLICS,

FIND COMMON GROUND

TO ADDRESS THESE

LEGITIMATE COMMON CONCERNS?

Jonathan: I THINK

WE'RE DOING IT.

I THINK WE'VE BEGUN IT HERE

AND I THINK IT WAS

COURAGEOUS OF YOU

TO HAVE A CATHOLIC PRIEST

WITH WHOM YOU DISAGREE

ON SOME THEOLOGICAL ISSUES.

I THINK I ACCEPTED TO DO THIS

BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH

I DISAGREE WITH YOU

ON SOME THEOLOGICAL ISSUES

IT IS WORTH COMING

AND TALKING AND DISCUSSING

AND WORKING TOGETHER BECAUSE

THE ISSUES ARE THAT IMPORTANT.

WE HAVE TO DO IT.

James: I LOVE YOU, MY BROTHER!

I LOVE YOU!

I LOVE THIS COUNTRY.

DO YOU APPRECIATE THE FACT

THAT GOD'S LIFTED US UP --

REALLY, TO HIS GLORY

AND HIS PURPOSE

IN YOUR BEHALF AND REALLY

FOR THE SAKE OF THE FUTURE

OF EVERYBODY WE LOVE.

WE WANT SO MUCH

FOR YOU TO BE BLESSED.

BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING?

THAT BLESSING

THAT GOD HAS PUT ON US,

THE BLESSING THAT

HE SAYS HE GIVES US SO WE

CAN BLESS OTHER NATIONS,

THAT'S WHAT GOD WANTS

FROM HIS FAMILY,

IT'S WHAT HE WANTS FROM

THE NATIONS THAT ARE BLESSED.

WE WANT THAT FOR YOU.

BUT YOU'RE A PART OF IT.

YOU'RE A PART OF DETERMINING

THE BLESSING OF THE LORD

ON YOUR OWN LIFE

AND THE BLESSING OF THE LORD

ON OTHERS.

JONATHAN MORRIS

HAS WRITTEN A GREAT BOOK,

GOD WANTS YOU HAPPY.

I THINK IT IS SIGNIFICANT.

RIGHT DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM

THERE IS A FORWARD WRITTEN,

GET THIS, BY AN EVANGELICAL,

ANOTHER ONE

OF MY BAPTIST BROTHERS,

RICK WARREN WHO WROTE

THE GREATEST SELLING BOOK

EVER WRITTEN

IN THE UNITED STATES,

THE PURPOSE DRIVEN LIFE.

THAT IN ITSELF, TO ME,

THIS IS PROGRESS

AND THIS IS WHAT GOD WANTS.

THAT BOOK IS IN

THE BOOKSTORES.

JONATHAN, OUR VIEWERS LOVE

TO BLESS OTHERS.

I DON'T KNOW

ANY GREATER BLESSING

THAN DOING WHAT JESUS SAID,

"IF YOU GIVE JUST

A CUP OF WATER IN MY NAME

YOU WON'T LOSE YOUR REWARD."

I WANT YOU TO LISTEN

TO OUR SON RANDY,

THE FATHER OF FOUR

OF OUR GRANDCHILDREN,

TWO SONS, TWO DAUGHTERS,

I WANT YOU TO LISTEN

TO RANDY COMMUNICATE

THE VERY LOVE OF GOD

AND CONCERN GOD HAS

FOR THOSE IN TREMENDOUS NEED

AS HE SPEAKS TO US

FROM THE MISSION FIELD.

LISTEN VERY CLOSELY TO RANDY.

Randy: I MET A FAMILY YESTERDAY,

A FATHER, A MOTHER, A LITTLE GIRL.

THE WOMAN'S NAME IS TI

AND SHE EXPLAINED HOW THEY USED TO HAVE THREE CHILDREN

BUT THEIR FOUR-YEAR-OLD SON DIED,

AND THEN ABOUT A YEAR LATER THEIR THREE-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER DIED.

SHE SHOWED ME PHOTOS OF HER TWO LOST CHILDREN.

TI TOLD ME HOW QUICKLY THE VOMITING AND DIARRHEA

OVERTOOK HER CHILDREN.

THEY BECAME SICK ONE DAY

AND THE NEXT DAY THEY WERE GONE.

IT SOUNDED LIKE THE SAME STORY

WE'VE HEARD SO MANY TIMES.

WATERBORNE DISEASES ARE TAKING THE LIVES OF CHILDREN.

SO I ASKED HER TO SHOW ME THEIR WATER SOURCE.

THE ONLY WATER THEY HAVE IS KILLING THEM.

IT IS CONTAMINATED, IT IS FILTHY,

AND YET THEY HAVE NO CHOICE.

RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR WATER HOLE ARE TWO GRAVES.

LOOKING AT THOSE GRAVES,

THEY'RE RELATIVELY NICE NEAT LITTLE MOUNDS OF DIRT

AND IT REALLY HIDES THE HORRIBLE,

HORRIBLE DEATH THAT THESE CHILDREN DIED.

I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE. I WAS AT A LOSS FOR WORDS.

WHAT DO YOU TELL PARENTS

THAT HAVE LOST THEIR CHILDREN THAT WAY?

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

I FELT LIKE I SHOULD JUST PRAY.

I ASKED THE LORD TO COMFORT THEM

AND REALLY TO JUST WATCH OVER THAT LITTLE GIRL,

THEIR ONE REMAINING CHILD.

I JUST HOPE THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT VERY LONG

TO RECEIVE AN ANSWER TO MY PRAYER.

I DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER GRAVE.

James: I FEEL LIKE

I HEARD MORE THAN JUST

OUR SON OR A DAD'S HEART,

I FEEL LIKE

I HEARD GOD'S HEART

AND THE HURT AND I REALLY

HEARD A CRY FOR HELP

FOR THAT LITTLE GIRL

AND FOR A LOT OF OTHERS

THAT SHE REPRESENTS.

Betty: THOSE PARENTS

DON'T LOVE THOSE CHILDREN

ANY LESS THAN WE LOVE

OUR OWN CHILDREN, JAMES.

I LOOK AT THAT --

DID YOU SEE HOW DIRTY

AND FILTHY THAT WATER WAS?

WELL, THAT'S JUST

ON THE SURFACE.

IT IS SO CONTAMINATED.

IT DOESN'T TAKE LONG

FOR THAT CONTAMINATION

TO GET INTO THEIR PRECIOUS

LITTLE BODIES

AND START DESTROYING

AND EATING AWAY AT THEIR LIFE.

WE CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.

I JUST THINK HOW BLESSED

WE ARE HERE IN OUR COUNTRY

THAT WE CAN JUST GO

TO OUR KITCHEN SINK,

TO THE FAUCET AND TURN IT ON

AND WE GET CLEAN ENOUGH WATER

TO DRINK SO THAT

IT DOESN'T HURT US, JAMES.

I GIVE OUR DOG

SO MUCH CLEANER WATER

THAN WHAT YOU SAW RIGHT THERE.

I MAKE SURE OF THAT,

AND THAT'S A PET!

THESE CHILDREN

DESERVE A CHANCE.

WON'T YOU PLEASE HELP US

DIG THESE WELLS,

TO PUT THESE WELLS IN

SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE

PLENTY OF WATER

SO THAT WILL NOT BE THE CAUSE

OF THEIR HEALTH

IN THEIR FAMILY?

James: OBVIOUSLY, THERE

WASN'T A THING WE COULD DO

FOR THOSE LITTLE CHILDREN

THAT WERE GONE

OR THAT MOTHER OTHER

THAN WHAT RANDY DID

AND THAT'S TO CARE.

BUT WE CAN DO SOMETHING

VERY REAL AND SIGNIFICANT

AND THAT'S

UNQUESTIONABLY EFFECTIVE.

IT IS NOT LIKE WE HAVE

TO DO SOME KIND OF EXPERIMENT

TO TRY TO FIND THE ANSWER

TO THAT PROBLEM

TO STOP THAT DEATH CYCLE.

WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

WE NEED TO DRILL A WELL.

WE KNOW THE COSTS

OF DRILLING A WELL.

WE KNOW THE AVERAGE COSTS.

WE HAVE TARGETED 350 AREAS

SIMILAR IN MANY DIFFERENT

COUNTRIES OF TREMENDOUS NEED.

AND WE TARGET THEM

BECAUSE THE MISSIONARIES

POINTED THEM OUT TO US

BECAUSE OF THE LOVE OF GOD

IN THEIR HEARTS.

THEY SAID,

"THESE PEOPLE HAVE A NEED."

AND THEY PLANTED THEIR LIFE

THERE IN THE MIDST OF THE PAIN

AND SAID, "COULD WE JUST PUT

A WATER SOURCE HERE?"

WELL, THEY ASKED US

BECAUSE THEY KNEW

WE WOULD ASK YOU.

AND THEY ASKED US BECAUSE

THEY KNEW WE CARE

AND WE WOULD ASK SOMEONE

WHO OBVIOUSLY HAS PROVEN

THEY CARE.

SO I'M ASKING YOU

TO DO IT AGAIN.

I'M ASKING YOU TO HELP US

DRILL A WELL THERE.

RANDY FOUND MANY AREAS

WITH THE MISSIONARIES

WHERE THE CIRCUMSTANCES

ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.

THAT LITTLE GIRL THAT'S ALIVE

AND THOSE LITTLE CHILDREN

THAT DIED, THEY REPRESENT

SO MANY OTHERS THAT ARE

SAYING AND REPRESENTING

THE NEED WE CAN MEET.

SO I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IT.

WOULD YOU PLEASE?

WOULD YOU SAY,

"HERE'S MY GIFT OF LOVE

TO HELP DRILL THAT WELL"?

THE AVERAGE COST IS $4800.

COULD YOU GIVE THAT?

EVERYONE WHO DOES IT SAYS,

"IT IS ONE OF THE

GREATEST JOYS OF MY LIFE."

WOULD YOU MAKE THAT GIFT?

IF YOU CAN

GIVE AN ENTIRE WELL,

PERHAPS YOU COULD GIVE $2400

AND PRAY SOMEONE MATCHES

OR $1200 AND PRAY

THREE JOIN YOU.

WHATEVER YOU CAN DO, DO IT

BUT KEEP THIS IN MIND BECAUSE

HERE'S WHERE THE MAJORITY

OF THE MONEY COMES FROM:

$48 WILL GIVE TEN PEOPLE WATER

FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE.

$144 WILL GIVE 30 PEOPLE WATER

THE REST OF THEIR LIFE.

THERE IS SOME LEVEL

AT WHICH YOU CAN PARTICIPATE.

FATHER, I PRAY EVERYONE

RIGHT NOW WOULD MOVE

TO EITHER GO ONLINE

TO MAKE A GIFT

OR TO WRITE A CHECK

OR TO USE THEIR BANKCARD

AND MAKE A CALL.

LEAD THEM IN THEIR GIVING.

IN JESUS' NAME.

PLEASE BE AN ANSWER

TO THE CONCERN OF THAT MOTHER

AND OTHERS LIKE HER,

TO THE PRAYER

THAT OUR SON PRAYED.

WOULD YOU DIAL THAT NUMBER?

TAKE YOUR BANKCARD,

USE IT LIKE A CHECK.

IF YOU WRITE A CHECK,

MAKE IT TO LIFE BUT CALL US

AND TELL US

WHAT YOU'RE SENDING.

LifeToday.org IF YOU WANT

TO MAKE THE GIFT ONLINE.

WE HAVE SOME SPECIAL

GIFTS TO SEND YOU

TO BE A BLESSING TO YOU

AND TO SAY THANK YOU.

PLEASE GO TO THE PHONE

RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR GIFT!

Announcer: EVERY DAY MILLIONS OF CHILDREN

ARE FORCED TO MAKE A DREADFUL CHOICE,

DRINK FILTHY POLLUTED WATER FILLED WITH DEADLY DISEASE

OR DIE FROM THIRST.

NO CHILD SHOULD EVER BE FACED WITH THIS DECISION!

THE GOOD NEWS IS THERE IS A SOLUTION!

MISSION: WATER FOR LIFE

IS ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING AND VIABLE DEMONSTRATIONS

OF GOD'S LOVE IN THE WORLD TODAY.

SUFFERING CAN END

BECAUSE CLEAN WATER CHANGES EVERYTHING!

WITH YOUR GIFT TODAY, WE CAN ESTABLISH

AND DRILL 350 NEW WATER WELLS

FOR REMOTE VILLAGES IN 12 DIFFERENT NATIONS.

YOUR GIFT OF $24

WILL HELP PROVIDE CLEAN WATER FOR FIVE PEOPLE!

A GIFT OF $48 WILL HELP PROVIDE FOR 10 PEOPLE.

$72 WILL IMPACT 15 PEOPLE.

AND $144 WILL HELP PROVIDE FRESH, CLEAN,

DISEASE-FREE WATER

FOR 30 PEOPLE FOR A LIFETIME!

WITH YOUR GIFT BE SURE TO REQUEST ARISE,

A BEAUTIFUL NEW DAILY DEVOTIONAL

FEATURING WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT FROM INSPIRING WOMEN

WHO HAVE SHARED THEIR FAITH ON LIFE TODAY.

WITH YOUR GIFT OF $100 OR MORE,

YOU MAY REQUEST THE ARISE AUDIO VISUAL DEVOTIONAL

FEATURING 40 DAYS OF INSPIRATION

FROM LIFE TODAY'S FAVORITE WOMEN GUESTS.

PLEASE PRAYERFULLY CONSIDER A GIFT OF $1200

TO HELP PROVIDE WATER FOR 250 PEOPLE

OR A GIFT OF $4800

TO HELP SPONSOR A COMPLETE WELL.

AND BE SURE TO REQUEST THE 2012 COMMEMORATIVE BRONZE SCULPTURE,

"THE LION AND THE LAMB."

PLEASE CALL, WRITE, OR MAKE YOUR SECURE GIFT ONLINE TODAY!

James: I WANT TO THANK YOU

FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART

FOR YOUR HELP.

BY THE WAY, IF YOU EVER

CALL AND GET A BUSY,

COULD BE SOMEBODY IS CALLING,

A NUMBER OF PEOPLE BECAUSE

THEY NEED HELP.

THEY WANT SOMEBODY

TO PRAY WITH THEM.

I WANT YOU TO BE SO DETERMINED

IF YOU EVER GET A BUSY,

I'M GETTING THROUGH BECAUSE

I'M GOING TO GIVE WATER.

I'M GOING TO HELP SOMEONE.

WE'RE SENDING ARISE,

IT'S AN INCREDIBLE

DEVOTIONAL BOOK

TO ALL OF YOU WHO MAKE A GIFT

TO HELP WHATEVER GOD

PUTS ON YOUR HEART.

I DO WANT TO REMIND YOU

THAT JONATHAN MORRIS,

FATHER JONATHAN MORRIS' BOOK,

GOD WANTS YOU HAPPY,

IT'S IN THE BOOKSTORES.

IT IS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.

ALSO, THE BOOK, INDIVISIBLE,

WHICH REALLY GIVES YOU

INSIGHT, I BELIEVE,

SO CRITICAL RIGHT NOW,

THIS YEAR, AND IN THE COMING

MONTHS AND YEARS NOT ONLY

FOR NECESSARY CORRECTION

BUT FOR THE DIRECTION

WE MUST GO AS A NATION.

IT IS FAR BIGGER

THAN JUST AN ELECTION --

ELECTIONS ARE BIG

BUT DIRECTION IS CRITICAL --

CORRECTION IS ESSENTIAL.

WE WANT TO HELP MAKE THAT.

GET INDIVISIBLE;

IT'S IN THE BOOKSTORES.

WE'RE SENDING IT

IF YOU'D LIKE IT

IN THE HARD BACK COPY,

WE'RE SENDING IT IF YOU

HELP US AND MAKE A GIFT

AND SAY, "JAMES,

WOULD YOU SEND THAT TO ME?

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT.

I WANT TO HELP YOU

DRILL THOSE WATER WELLS."

JOIN BETTY AND ME

IN SAYING THANKS AGAIN

TO JONATHAN MORRIS.

THANKS SO MUCH!

YOU'LL SEE HIM OFTENTIMES

REPRESENTING THE LORD SO WELL

ON FOX NEWS.

HE'S THERE OFTEN.

THANK ALL OF YOU FOR WATCHING.

AGAIN, THANK YOU

FOR YOUR HELP.

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Announcer: FAITH, FAMILY, AND FREEDOM ARE UNDER ATTACK.

JAMES ROBISON AND JAY RICHARDS ENCOURAGE A DIVIDED AMERICA

TO STAND TOGETHER BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

INDIVISIBLE -- NOW AVAILABLE IN PAPERBACK

AND ONLINE AND RETAIL BOOKSTORES.

Announcer: NEXT WEEK, BEST-SELLING AUTHORS JOHN AND LISA BEVERE

CHALLENGE BELIEVERS TO BE RELENTLESS.

GOD WILL ALLOW THINGS TO COME

AND GOD EXPECTS US TO FIGHT BACK.