Announcer: COMING UP,

FAITH, FAMILY, AND FREEDOM ARE UNDER ATTACK.

IF YOU CHIP AWAY AT SOMETHING FOR 30 OR 40 YEARS,

IT EVENTUALLY GIVES WAY, IT EVENTUALLY COLLAPSES.

Announcer: STAY TUNED AS JAY RICHARDS AND JAMES ROBISON

CALL US TO STAND TOGETHER BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

THE SECULAR LEFT WOULD LOVE FOR CHRISTIANS TO DECIDE, OKAY,

I BELIEVE IN SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

SO I WON'T TALK ABOUT MY MORAL VIEWS.

SO THEY CAN HAVE THE TERRITORY ALL TO THEMSELVES.

James: I WANT TO GIVE YOU A PERSONAL INVITATION TO COME

TO THE INDIVISIBLE BOOK SIGNING.

WE'RE GOING TO BE TRAVELING TO VARIOUS AREAS OF OUR COUNTRY

AND WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME SEE ME AND JAY RICHARDS,

AND BETTY IS GOING TO BE THERE.

CHECK THE WEB SITE TO FIND OUT WHEN WE'LL BE IN YOUR AREA.

§

James: WELCOME TO LIFE TODAY.

THANK ALL OF YOU FOR BEING HERE.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE PROGRAM.

I'M JAMES ROBISON.

BETTY AND I ARE THRILLED TO HAVE

THE CO-AUTHOR OF THE BOOK,

(I'M THE OTHER AUTHOR,)

INDIVISIBLE : RESTORING FAITH,

FAMILY, AND FREEDOM

BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

NOW IT'S NOT TOO LATE

BUT IT IS LATER

THAN MOST PEOPLE THINK,

AND IF WE DON'T BEGIN

TO CORRECT OUR COURSE

THE CATASTROPHIC CONSEQUENCES OF

DECADES OF, QUITE FRANKLY,

GOD-FORSAKEN THINKING

AND POLICIES BASED

SOMETIMES ON GOOD PRINCIPLES

BUT THE POLICIES

ARE UNSUSTAINABLE

AND THEY DON'T WORK.

AND IT DOESN'T MATTER

HOW WELL YOU MEAN

AND YOUR GOOD INTENTIONS,

IF THEY DON'T WORK

THEY DON'T WORK.

WE CAN'T KEEP DIGGING

THIS DITCH OF DEBT --

INSURMOUNTABLE.

AND NOTICE THIS, BETTY,

THIS IS SO OBVIOUS,

THE SMALLER GOD BECOMES

TO PEOPLE THE BIGGER

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GETS.

THE BIGGER

WHATEVER YOU DEPEND ON BECOMES

ONCE GOD BECOMES SMALL,

AND WHATEVER YOU DEPEND UPON

WILL BEGIN TO CONTROL YOU

AND ULTIMATELY DESTROY YOU.

JAY RICHARDS JOINED ME

TO WRITE THE BOOK.

I WANT YOU TO WELCOME

JAY RICHARDS TO LIFE TODAY.

JAY, GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.

Jay: THANKS JAMES,

IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.

James: I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT

FOR OUR VIEWERS TO KNOW

THAT MY FINDING YOU FOR ME

WAS A THREE-YEAR JOURNEY

OF PRAYER.

AND KNOWING THAT I WAS

TO WRITE A BOOK

DEALING WITH THE ISSUES WE FACE

AS A FATHER/GRANDFATHER,

A HUSBAND, DEEPLY CONCERNED

ABOUT AMERICA AND OUR DIRECTION

AND GOD LED ME TO YOU,

AND HE LED ME TO YOU

WHEN I READ A BOOK,

MONEY, GREED, AND GOD,

WHICH WAS ABOUT THE ECONOMY

AND FREE MARKET, CAPITALISM,

AND HOW THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM.

I KIND OF COINED THE PHRASE

FROM A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE

THAT THE FERTILE FIELD

IS NEVER THE PROBLEM

FOR THE ABUSE OF ANY FORM

OR ANY PERSON.

BUT YOU ALSO IN THE BOOK

POINTED OUT HOW CLEARLY

THE BIBLE TEACHES THE FREEDOMS

THAT WE ENJOY.

AND YOU TALKED ABOUT FAMILY

AND THE SOCIAL ISSUES

AND HOW THEY MATTER TOO

BUT YOU WEREN'T ABLE

TO SPEND THE TIME YOU WANTED TO.

AND WHEN I SAW

WHERE YOUR HEART WAS

I CAME TO YOU AND INVITED YOU

TO COME AND SPEND SEVERAL DAYS

WITH ME AND BETTY, AND WE DID,

GOD WELDED OUR HEARTS TOGETHER,

AND THEN YOU TOLD ME

YOU WERE A CATHOLIC, AND

EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS GUY IS

THE GUN SLINGING RIGHT-WING

BAPTIST EVANGELIST PROTESTANT.

YOU KNOW,

YOU'RE TALKING TO A CATHOLIC.

I'M NOT ONLY TALKING

TO A CATHOLIC, I LOVE HIM.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, I LOVE ALL

CATHOLICS, I LOVE ALL PEOPLE.

SO I DON'T REALLY NEED TO HEAR

FROM ANY OF YOU TELLING ME

I DON'T NEED TO LOVE SOMEBODY

WHO MAY COME FROM

A DIFFERENT VEIN OR A DIFFERENT

THOUGHT PATTERN THAN I HAVE.

WHAT GOD SHOWED ME, JAY,

WHEN WE TALKED WAS THAT WE

NEEDED TO COME TOGETHER BECAUSE

GOD HAD ALREADY SHOWN US THE

LEGITIMATE CONCERNS AND THAT WE

COULD DO SOMETHING TOGETHER.

AND IT IS AMAZING AND WE DID IT.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT

THE JOURNEY WITH YOUR BACKGROUND

AND US WORKING TOGETHER?

Jay: IT'S ONE

OF THE MOST EXCITING,

IF NOT THE MOST EXCITING THING

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH, JAMES.

IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO --

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WAS IN MY

OFFICE AT DISCOVERY INSTITUTE

IN SEATTLE AND YOU CALLED ME

AND SAID, "I HAVE AN IDEA,

WHY DON'T YOU COME DOWN HERE

TO COLORADO AND SEE US?"

WE REALLY HAD

A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS

SO I CAME DOWN AND YOU TOLD ME

THAT YOUR HEART HAD BEEN MOVING

IN THIS DIRECTION

AND YOU WANTED TO WRITE A BOOK

THAT WOULD SPEAK TO THE NATION

AND WERE PRAYING ABOUT SOMEONE

YOU COULD WORK WITH TO DO IT.

AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I HAD

THIS KIND OF BOOK IDEA IN ME

BUT HONESTLY NO IDEA OF HOW

I WAS EVER GOING TO WORK ON IT.

BUT FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS

WE PRAYED AND TALKED ABOUT IT.

AND FINALLY, I DECIDED,

I USUALLY DON'T GET

REAL CLEAR DIRECTIONS

FROM GOD ON A RED PHONE

TELLING ME EXACTLY WHAT TO DO

BUT I JUST PRAYED

IF WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO IT

GOD WOULD WORK EVERYTHING OUT

AND HE DID;

HE WORKED IT OUT SPECTACULARLY

SO THAT WE COULD SPEND

THE LAST YEAR

WORKING ON THIS THING.

James: WE BROUGHT TOGETHER

71 MAJOR CHURCH LEADERS

INCLUDING CATHOLICS,

ALL OF THE MAINLINE

MEDIA MINISTRY LEADERS

THAT YOU WOULD KNOW.

YOU CAN GO TO JAMESROBISON.NET,

SCROLL BACK IN THE COLUMNS

TO SUPERNATURAL GATHERINGS

AND YOU'LL SEE A LISTING

OF ULTIMATELY 92 LEADERS

WHO JOINED TOGETHER,

INCLUDING CATHOLICS.

THEY WERE 100% BEHIND US

DOING THIS TOGETHER.

THEY BELIEVED

WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO IT.

Jay: ABSOLUTELY.

IT FELT VERY MUCH LIKE WE WERE

GETTING A MESSAGE INDEPENDENTLY,

OTHERS WERE GETTING

THE MESSAGE INDEPENDENTLY,

IT WASN'T LIKE WE'D ALL

COME TOGETHER FOUR YEARS AGO

AND SORT OF COLLUDED

ON THIS MESSAGE.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS

THAT REALLY CONFIRMED IT FOR ME,

IS THAT PEOPLE

FROM DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE,

DIFFERENT THEOLOGICAL TRADITIONS

SAYING THE SAME THING

AND WHAT WE WANTED

TO ARGUE IN THE BOOK,

THAT BELIEVERS,

CATHOLICS AND PROTESTANTS

AS WELL AS PEOPLE

THAT BELIEVE IN FAMILY

AND ALL THE MILLIONS

OF AMERICANS THAT BELIEVE

IN FREEDOM

AND LIMITED GOVERNMENT

AND A VIBRANT ECONOMY,

WE WANT THOSE PEOPLE

WORKING TOGETHER.

SO IT REALLY MADE PERFECT SENSE

THAT A TEAM,

A CATHOLIC AND AN EVANGELICAL

WOULD WRITE THE BOOK TOGETHER.

WE THOUGHT,

THIS HADN'T BEEN DONE

VERY MANY TIMES BEFORE

BUT THE LORD WORKS

IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS

AND HE CAN MAKE THINGS POSSIBLE

AND IT CAME TOGETHER

BEAUTIFULLY, I THINK.

James: AND NOW A MIRACLE

THAT THE HACHETTE FAITHWORDS,

EVANGELICAL PRESS

HAS JOINED WITH IGNATIUS PRESS,

CATHOLIC PRESS AND THEY'RE

CO-PUBLISHING THE BOOK,

THAT'S ANOTHER

SUPERNATURAL MIRACLE.

BETTY, YOU'VE BEEN

KIND OF WATCHING.

YOU'VE WATCHED ME LITERALLY

ON MY FACE BEFORE GOD

FOR A LONG TIME.

YOU'VE BEEN BROKENHEARTED

FOR THE NATION.

Betty: I HAVE.

I TOO HAVE GOTTEN A REALLY

BIG BURDEN FOR OUR COUNTRY

AS A CHRISTIAN.

I FEEL AN ACCOUNTABILITY,

A RESPONSIBILITY

TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE.

YEARS AGO,

I COULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT

BECAUSE I THOUGHT, WELL, I'M IN

MY LITTLE CHRISTIAN WORLD,

MY LITTLE CHURCH WORLD AND

DIDN'T REALLY LOOK BEYOND THAT.

BUT NOW I KNOW THAT I SHOULD

AND I AM BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT

THE FUTURE OF OUR FAMILIES,

OUR CHILDREN, OUR GRANDCHILDREN.

I CARE ABOUT WHERE WE ARE NOW

AS A COUNTRY.

AND TO REALIZE THAT I, JUST ME,

CAN HAVE A BIG PART

IN THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE,

THE CHOICES THAT WE'VE MADE.

WE'VE MADE SOME BAD CHOICES

AS A COUNTRY

AND I THINK AS CHRISTIANS,

WE HAVE BEEN ASLEEP ALMOST

AND IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP.

I FEEL THAT.

I KNOW THAT IN MY HEART.

I HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE

AND KNOWLEDGEABLE

ABOUT THE SURROUNDINGS

GOING ON AROUND ME.

I CAN BE EFFECTIVE IN IT

AND IF WE ALL SEE THAT

AND KNOW THAT WE CAN'T

JUST LEAVE IT UP TO GOVERNMENT

TO MAKE ALL OUR DECISIONS

BUT WE CAN HAVE A PART ON WHO'S

IN THOSE PLACES AND WHAT REALLY

OUR HEARTS EXPRESSED

THROUGH THE DECISIONS

THAT ARE MADE.

James: JESUS SAID

HE IS THE LIGHT

AND WE'RE LIGHT IN THE WORLD

BECAUSE THE LIGHT'S IN US.

WE ARE TO PUT THAT LIGHT

ON A LAMP STAND,

WE'RE NOT TO HIDE IT.

HE SAYS DON'T COVER IT.

NOW I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE

HAVE COVERED THE LIGHT OF CHRIST

WITH ALL OF THEIR

THEOLOGICAL ARGUMENTS THAT

DON'T EVER REALLY MAGNIFY GOD.

BUT THE BIGGER WAY I'VE SEEN

CATHOLICS AND PROTESTANTS

HIDE THE LIGHT,

THEY GET COMFORTABLE

IN THEIR SITUATION,

THEY SEE THE UGLY OUT HERE,

THEY SEE WHAT GOES ON

IN THE POLITICAL WORLD.

A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE

DON'T WANT TO RUN

BECAUSE THEY KNOW

THEY'RE GOING TO BE BLASTED

FOR ANY FAULT THEY EVER HAD,

AND OUR GREAT FOUNDERS

HAD FAULTS AND FLAWS.

ALL THE GREAT BIBLE LEADERS

HAD FLAWS

BUT THEY PRESSED ON TOWARD

THE STANDARD OF GOD'S TRUTH.

HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENED

AND DON'T YOU MISS THIS.

YOU GET SETTLED IN AND

YOU DON'T KNOW IT BUT YOU ALSO

ARE COVERING THE LIGHT

BY JUST TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS

AT HOME.

BUT SOMEONE IN WASHINGTON

AND SOMEONE IN HIGH PLACES

IS GIVING YOU THE BUSINESS

AND DESTROYING YOUR BUSINESS

AND BUILDING A GOVERNMENT

THAT IS BIGGER AND MORE DOMINANT

THAN PHARAOH EVER WAS,

AND PEOPLE ARE FOOLISHLY

BEING DEPENDENT UPON IT.

THIS IS WHAT

I HAVE SEEN HAPPENING.

THIS IS WHAT I FELT CALLED,

AND SINCE YOU FEEL CALLED,

AND THAT'S WHY

WE WROTE INDIVISIBLE

TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE

GET THAT LIGHT

BACK ON THE LAMPSTAND

AND THEN BECOME A CITY

SET ON A HILL THAT CANNOT...

AND I'VE ADDED THESE WORDS

FOR TODAY -- WILL NOT,

THAT'S AFFIRMATIVE,

THAT'S TAKE ACTION,

TAKE A STAND.

IT'S A CITY

THAT CANNOT BE HIDDEN

BECAUSE WE'RE STANDING TOGETHER

TO ILLUMINATE THE WAY,

TO ILLUMINATE THE ERROR

OF THE WAY

AND TO CORRECT THE COURSE.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU

AND I HAVE BEEN CALLED TO DO;

TO TRY TO CALL PEOPLE

TO STAND TOGETHER

TO GET THE LIGHT OUT FROM UNDER

THEIR OWN LITTLE SECURITY,

GET OUT HERE

AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE

IN OUR NATION, AND CHANGE

THE COURSE OF OUR SHIP OF STATE.

NOW HAVE I SAID THAT

IN ANY WAY THAT PRETTY WELL

SUMS UP WHAT WE FELT TOGETHER?

YOU HAVE TO PARDON ME,

I'M A PREACHER.

YOU HANG OUT WITH PROFESSORS.

Jay: ACTUALLY, IT REALLY IS,

BUT I SHARED THIS WITH YOU,

I HAVE A FRIEND

THAT HAS A LOT OF KIDS,

HOME SCHOOLS KIDS,

A VERY NICE SITUATION,

HE SPEAKS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE,

I KNOW, THAT HE REALLY

FEELS COUNTERCULTURAL.

IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF KIDS

AND YOU'RE HOME SCHOOLING

AND YOU TURN ON THE TV,

EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE

AGAINST YOU.

SO THE TEMPTATION IS TO SAY,

"OKAY, I'M GOING TO CORRAL HERE

AND BUILD MY FENCE

AND HAVE MY OWN LITTLE WORLD

AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT --

FIRST OF ALL

DON'T WORRY ABOUT POLITICS

BUT YOU ALSO START THINKING

ALL THESE POLITICAL DEBATES,

THEY DON'T REALLY MATTER."

UNFORTUNATELY,

A LOT OF CHRISTIANS

WILL COME OUT OF THE CAVE

MAYBE ONCE EVERY FOUR YEARS,

CAST A BALLOT.

IT EITHER GOES WELL,

AND YOU SAY, "GOOD!"

YOU GO BACK IN THE CAVE.

OR YOU LOSE AND THEN YOU SAY,

"WELL, THE LORD IS GOING

TO RETURN SOON ANYWAY

SO I'LL GO BACK

IN THE CAVE AGAIN."

WELL, THE SECULARISTS

DON'T THINK THAT WAY.

THEY THINK INCREMENTALLY,

WHAT THEY SAY IS

IF YOU CHIP AWAY AT SOMETHING

FOR 30 OR 40 YEARS

IT EVENTUALLY GIVES WAY,

IT EVENTUALLY COLLAPSES.

I THINK, FRANKLY,

THAT WE AS CHRISTIANS

NEED TO THINK MORE LIKE THAT,

NOT IN SECULAR TERMS

BUT THE REALITY IS THAT

WE'VE GOT TO BE IN THIS

FOR THE LONG HAUL.

YES, WE'RE CONCERNED

ABOUT SPECIFIC ELECTIONS.

WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED

ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING

IN OUR COMMUNITIES,

IN OUR CHURCHES, IN OUR FAMILIES

AND IF WE LOOK INTERNALLY,

AT LEAST WITH RESPECT

TO WHAT WE'RE DOING,

THAT'S RIGHT, WE WANT TO GET

OUR OWN HOUSE IN ORDER,

WE WANT PERSONAL HOLINESS

AS WELL AS CULTURAL RENEWAL.

BUT THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING,

THAT'S NOT THE END.

WE'RE CALLED TO BE SALT

AND LIGHT IN THE CULTURE

AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT IF YOU

STAY IN YOUR LITTLE SAFE CAVE.

James: WELL, YOU KNOW

I THINK THAT ONE OF THE FINEST

COMMENTS OF OUR BOOK

THAT WE COULD HAVE EVER HOPED

TO HEAR CAME FROM GEORGE GILDER,

AN INCREDIBLE ECONOMIST.

HE WROTE WEALTH AND POVERTY.

HE IS SO HIGHLY RESPECTED

THAT PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN

MADE HIM HIS MOST

FREQUENT QUOTE;

THE INDIVIDUAL HE ADMIRED MOST

IN WHAT HE SAID, AND THE THINGS

THAT HE RECOMMENDED AND PUT

IN PLACE, ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC.

HE DID THE ISRAEL TEST,

WHICH IS QUITE AN EXPLORATION

IN THE FAILURE OF SOCIALISM

WHEN THEY BROUGHT IT INTO ISRAEL

AND IT DIDN'T WORK.

HE WENT THROUGH

THIS WHOLE THING.

FOR HIM TO SAY IN OUR BOOK

AND HE IS AN ACADEMIC,

HE IS BRILLIANT, HE SAID THAT

YOU AND I HAD TAKEN THE TRUTH

AND HAD REALLY PUT TO REST

THE ERROR, THE THOUGHT

THAT THE SOCIAL AND THE ECONOMIC

AND THE MORAL AND THE FISCAL

CAN BE SEPARATED.

THEY CAN'T!

HE SAID AND WE "CONCUSSIVELY"

WAS THE WORD HE USED,

AND CONCLUSIVELY

AND EMPHATICALLY

WE LITERALLY PROVED

YOU CAN'T SEPARATE IT.

WE TALK ABOUT

THE FAMILY AND MARRIAGE,

AND WHEN THAT DETERIORATES

WHAT IT DOES TO THE ECONOMY;

WHAT THE SOCIAL ILLS DO

IN THE FISCAL AREA.

EVERYBODY SAYS IT'S THE ECONOMY,

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMY,

WHY DO WE TALK ABOUT FAMILY?

WHY DO WE TALK ABOUT MARRIAGE?

WHY DON'T WE TALK ABOUT

THE PRECIOUSNESS OF LIFE?

CATHOLICS AND PROTESTANTS SAY,

"WE BELIEVE LIFE IS PRECIOUS.

WE BELIEVE MARRIAGE

IS IMPORTANT.

WE BELIEVE FAMILY

IS IMPORTANT."

THAT'S WHAT EFFECTS THE ECONOMY

MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

AND THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T SEEM

TO GET THAT AT ALL, AND THE

ACADEMICS AND THE ENTERTAINMENT

COMMUNITY DON'T GET IT.

Jay: THEY DON'T.

EVEN THE SO-CALLED CONSERVATIVE

PUNDITS IN CERTAIN PLACES

WHERE THERE ARE LOTS OF CAMERAS

AND LOTS OF NEWS MEDIA

HAVE BEEN TELLING US FOR YEARS,

"THESE SO-CALLED SOCIAL ISSUES,

DON'T TALK ABOUT LIFE,

DON'T TALK ABOUT MARRIAGE,

THAT DOESN'T POLL WELL.

JUST FOCUS ON

SO-CALLED ECONOMIC ISSUES."

BUT WE ARGUE, LOOK, THESE THINGS

ARE INEXTRICABLY TIED,

THEY'RE INDIVISIBLE.

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS

FOR KEEPING PEOPLE

OUT OF POVERTY, FOR INSTANCE,

IN THE UNITED STATES

IS HAVING A MOTHER AND A FATHER

IN YOUR HOME.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE NUMBER ONE

PREDICTOR OF CHILDHOOD POVERTY

IN THE UNITED STATES

IS WHETHER THAT CHILD

HAS A FATHER IN HIS HOME.

IN OTHER WORDS, A FAMILY ISSUE

IS THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL VARIABLE

IN WHETHER SOMEONE IS IN POVERTY

OR NOT.

YOU SIMPLY CAN'T SEPARATE THOSE.

WHEN PEOPLE SAY, "I JUST WANT

TO TALK ABOUT THE FREE MARKET,

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT

LIMITED GOVERNMENT."

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO

HAPPEN IF EVERY AMERICAN FAMILY

SUDDENLY COLLAPSED?

THIS WOULD NOT BE

A LIBERTARIAN PARADISE

WHERE EVERYBODY IS SORT OF FREE

TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

IT WOULD BE A WORLD IN WHICH

THE STATE WAS INVOLVED

IN EVERY PRIVATE AND PERSONAL

DECISION THAT A PERSON MAKES.

THAT'S NOT THE PARADISE

OF A LIMITED GOVERNMENT.

Betty: DON'T YOU THINK

WE'VE BEEN COMPLACENT,

AS CHRISTIANS

WE'VE BEEN CONVINCED AND TOLD

THAT IT'S POLITICALLY INCORRECT

TO INVOLVE OURSELVES

IN THE ECONOMY

AND THE THINGS OF THE COUNTRY --

THE SO-CALLED SECULAR RUNNINGS

OF THE COUNTRY?

AND THAT, "OH, NO! OH, NO!

WE CAN'T MESH THE TWO TOGETHER."

WELL, I WANT TO KNOW

HOW YOU SEPARATE THE TWO?

Jay: ABSOLUTELY.

WE'RE OFTEN TOLD DON'T TRY TO --

YOU'RE IMPOSING YOUR MORALITY

OR YOU'RE LEGISLATING MORALITY.

IT IS THE STRANGEST THING

THAT PEOPLE SAY THIS

BECAUSE I ALWAYS SAY, "WELL,

SO WHAT SHOULD WE LEGISLATE?

LIKE SPORTS SCORES

OR THE LAWS OF PHYSICS?

WHAT ARE LAWS?"

LAWS ARE THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL

MORAL JUDGMENTS WE MAKE

AS A CULTURE.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE LAWS

AGAINST FRAUD, WE HAVE LAWS

AGAINST STEALING AND KILLING.

THOSE ARE MORAL DECISIONS

OR MORAL JUDGMENTS.

YEAH, OF COURSE IT IS TRUE

THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A LAW

AGAINST EVERY SIN, AGAINST

ENVY OR ANGER THAT SOMEONE HAS

IN THEIR HEARTS, OF COURSE,

BUT THESE SORT OF FUNDAMENTAL

MORAL QUESTIONS ARE

THE VERY ESSENCE OF POLITICS.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION.

THE SECULAR LEFT WOULD LOVE

FOR CHRISTIANS TO DECIDE

OKAY, WELL, I BELIEVE IN

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

SO I WON'T TALK

ABOUT MY MORAL VIEWS.

SO THEN THEY CAN JUST HAVE

THE TERRITORY ALL TO THEMSELVES.

BUT IT IS REALLY

A SUCKER'S BARGAIN

BECAUSE OF COURSE,

EVEN ATHEISTS KNOW

THAT IT'S WRONG

TO TORTURE A SMALL CHILD

FOR THE FUN OF IT,

FOR INSTANCE.

EVERYBODY HAS MORAL KNOWLEDGE.

THAT'S WHAT YOU BASE

YOUR LAWS ON.

SO WE HAVE AS MUCH SAY

IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE AS ANYONE

WHETHER THEY BELIEVE IN GOD

OR NOT.

James: BUT WE DON'T SAY.

WE HIDE THE LIGHT.

WE HAVE THE SAY

AND WHAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY DONE

IS NOT TO SPEAK IS TO SPEAK --

NOT TO SAY IS TO SAY --

NOT TO ACT IS TO ACT.

CHRISTIANS, FOR WHATEVER REASON

HAVE PULLED OUT.

HERE'S THE THING

YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND.

JAY AND I ARE NOT CALLED

TO A PARTY, WE ARE CALLED

TO DELIVER THE TRUTH

TO ALL PARTIES, TO ALL PEOPLE.

THIS IS NOT A BOOK WRITTEN

FOR DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS

OR LIBERTARIANS OR INDEPENDENTS.

IT IS A BOOK WRITTEN

TO EVERY PERSON ON PLANET EARTH

ABOUT ETERNAL, UNSHAKABLE,

IN OUR OPINION

IRREFUTABLE TRUTH,

AND WE'VE PUT IT OUT.

BY THE WAY, SOME OF

THE GREATEST MINDS HAVE SAID --

AND I KNOW A GET A LITTLE FIRM,

A GET A LITTLE WORKED UP.

NOW YOU PRAY I'LL BECOME

A LITTLE CALMER, BECAUSE

I'M REALLY PRETTY STIRRED.

I'M TRYING TO BE CALM.

[Laughter]

BUT THE THING IS THAT

WE REALLY DO BELIEVE

THAT WE HAVE GOT SOMETHING HERE

THAT IS SO IMPORTANT

THAT YOU'VE GOT TO GET IT OUT,

YOU DON'T HOLD IT BACK.

WE BELIEVE IT IS IMPERATIVE

TO GET IT OUT.

THAT'S WHY WE FEEL LIKE

WE HAVE WRITTEN SOMETHING

THAT WILL TAKE PEOPLE

IN THE DIRECTION

THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GO.

IT IS WRITTEN TO EVERY PERSON,

TO EVERY CANDIDATE

IN EVERY POLITICAL PARTY,

WE BELIEVE THE LIGHT OF GOD,

CATHOLICS, PROTESTANTS,

ALL BELIEVERS, AND ALL PEOPLE

WHO BELIEVE FAITH IS IMPORTANT,

FAMILY IS IMPORTANT,

FREEDOM IS IMPORTANT.

WE BELIEVE THAT EVERY ONE OF US

HAS A RESPONSIBILITY

TO BE WELL-INFORMED,

ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS

OF SELECTION AND CHOOSING

BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WE CHOOSE,

THEY PUT THE POLICIES IN PLACE,

THEY PUT THE LAWS IN PLACE

THAT WE LIVE UNDER,

OR EITHER ENCUMBERED BY

OR ASSISTED IN OUR LIBERTY

TO BE ABLE TO FUNCTION FREELY

AS OUR FOUNDERS UNDERSTOOD IT

AND WE'RE ABOUT TO LOSE THAT.

I THINK WE'RE VERY CLOSE

TO LOSING OUR FREEDOM.

Jay: I DO TOO.

EVERY FOUR YEARS,

EVERY PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION,

EVERY BIG ELECTION,

YOU HEAR PEOPLE SAY

IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT TIME.

BUT I REALLY DO BELIEVE

THAT THIS IS THE MOST

IMPORTANT ELECTION YEAR

THAT THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC

HAS EVER HAD.

I JUST THINK THERE ARE

SO MANY THINGS CONVERGING.

I DON'T THINK

THE ECONOMIC POLICIES,

THE DEFICIT SPENDING,

IT IS JUST SIMPLY MATHEMATICS

THAT WE CAN'T KEEP THIS UP

MUCH LONGER.

FOUR YEARS, WE'LL BE SPENDING

AS MUCH JUST PAYING THE INTEREST

ON THE DEBT AS WE'RE SPENDING

ON OUR ENTIRE DEFENSE,

WHICH IS THE MAIN POINT

OF HAVING A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

SO THIS CAN'T HAPPEN VERY LONG.

SO THE PERSON THAT IS IN

THE WHITE HOUSE IN 2012

IS GOING TO HAVE SOME VERY

TOUGH DECISIONS TO MAKE.

HE IS GOING TO HAVE REAL

INTESTINAL FORTITUDE

AND BE ABLE TO BRING

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ALONG

TO DO SOME THINGS THAT A LOT

OF PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO LIKE.

IT'S GOING TO BE UNPOPULAR.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT

WE NEED TO BE PRAYING FOR.

I THINK SOMEONE THAT HAS BOTH

THE RIGHT PRINCIPLES BUT ALSO

KNOWS HOW TO APPLY THEM PROPERLY

IN THE RIGHT POLICIES

AND THE MORAL CONVICTION

AND THE CHARACTER

TO BE ABLE TO WEATHER THE STORM.

James: THE BOOK

IS IN THE BOOKSTORES.

I CHALLENGE YOU TO GET A COPY,

TO GET A COPY FOR A FRIEND

THAT YOU KNOW IS CONCERNED

ABOUT THE COUNTRY.

YOU MAY EVEN CONSIDER

GETTING ONE FOR SOMEONE

THAT HAS KIND OF PULLED BACK

BUT YOU KNOW

THEY LOVE THEIR FAMILY.

THE OTHER THING I'D REALLY

LIKE TO SUGGEST YOU DO,

GET ONE FOR YOUR PRIEST

OR YOUR PASTOR.

ENCOURAGE THEM TO READ IT.

AND HERE, IF YOU JUST SAY,

"WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW ACTIVE

I WANT TO BE."

I PROMISE YOU,

WE WILL POINT YOU TO THE ISSUES

ABOUT WHICH WE MUST PRAY.

WE MUST FOCUS OUR PRAYERS.

WOULD YOU JOIN ME AND BETTY

IN SAYING THANKS TO JAY RICHARDS

FOR BEING OUR GUEST TODAY,

AND ALSO FOR HELPING US

WITH THIS INCREDIBLE ENDEAVOR?

IT'S A REAL MISSION ASSIGNMENT;

GOD HAS CALLED ME

TO THIS MISSION FIELD.

WE LOVE THE MISSION FIELD

FOR THE WORLD --

WE LOVE TO HELP THE PEOPLE

THAT ARE DOWNTRODDEN.

WE WANT TO DO MORE TO HELP

THE DOWNTRODDEN HERE.

WE WANT TO GET THE WEALTH

CREATORS AND THE PEOPLE

WHO HAVE CREATED THE WEALTH

TO QUIT SAYING,

"WELL, I PAID MY TAXES

AND NOW I DID MY DUE."

WE WANT THEM TO FOCUS THEIR

ATTENTION ON TRYING TO SOLVE

PROBLEMS HERE AT HOME TOO;

NOT JUST THE GOVERNMENT THAT

HAS MISMANAGED OUR MONEY WORSE

THAN ANYBODY ON PLANET EARTH.

SO WE WANT TO REFOCUS

SOME ATTENTION.

BETTY AND I ARE MISSION MINDED.

WE WANT AMERICA TO BE ABLE

TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT MISSIONS,

AUSTRALIANS TO BE ABLE TO DO SO,

EUROPEANS TO DO SO.

WE WANT THINGS TO GET RIGHT.

I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT SOMETHING.

A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE

A CHALLENGE THAT YOU JUST

CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO MEET,

A DISEASE YOU DON'T KNOW

HOW TO WHIP.

I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A PROBLEM,

THERE IS A VERY SIMPLE CURE FOR.

IT IS NOT SOMETHING

WE HAVE TO TEST.

THIS WORKS!

I WANT YOU TO LISTEN

TO THIS DOCTOR

AND WE'VE GOT THE ANSWER

TO WHAT HE ADDRESSES.

Translator: IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF ILLNESS

BUT IN GENERAL IF A CHILD HAS A WATERBORNE DISEASE

AND HE IS NOT TREATED IN THE FIRST 24 HOURS

HE HAS A 60 TO 70% CHANCE OF GETTING WORSE

BECAUSE OF DEHYDRATION.

AFTER THAT, THE CHILD'S BODY WILL PROBABLY SHUT DOWN AND DIE.

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Translator: THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE CAME TO BATHE,

TO WASH OUR DISHES,

AND WE TAKE THE WATER BACK HOME AND DRINK IT.

WE COOK OUR FOOD IN THIS WATER.

THEY ALSO BRING THE ANIMALS IN HERE TO WASH THEM.

Translator: THE KIDS GET SICK OFTEN.

THEY HAVE DIARRHEA, FEVER, AND VOMITING.

WE TAKE THEM TO THE HEALTH CENTER ALMOST EACH MONTH

BUT THEY KEEP GETTING SICK.

MY CHILD RIGHT NOW IS SICK WITH DIARRHEA.

A LOT OF CHILDREN FROM THIS COMMUNITY HAVE DIED.

THIS WATER IS CONTAMINATED.

WE KNOW IT BUT THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

James: BUT THERE IS SOMETHING

WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

I WANT TO ASK YOU TO REACH OUT

AND REALLY TOUCH SOMEONE

WITH LOVE.

RIGHT NOW

AND THROUGHOUT THIS PROGRAM

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CALLING,

SOME OF THEM PERHAPS CONCERNED

ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON

IN THEIR FAMILY,

MAYBE IN THEIR COUNTRY,

SOMETHING IS ON THEIR HEART.

MAYBE THEIR HEART'S BROKEN

SO THEY CALL FOR PRAYER.

LOVE PAYS FOR THAT CALL.

BUT I WANT TO ASK YOU

TO CALL RIGHT NOW TO SAY,

"YOU KNOW WHAT?

I WANT TO GIVE THOSE PEOPLE

A FRESH, CLEAN,

NON-CONTAMINATED WATER SOURCE.

LET'S DRILL THEM A WELL."

WE'RE GOING TO DRILL

HUNDREDS OF WELLS THIS YEAR

AND YOU'RE THE ONE

THAT DETERMINE HOW MANY.

WE HAVE FOCUSED

ON 12 DIFFERENT NATIONS

AND WE'RE ASKING YOU

TO HELP US DRILL THE WELLS.

BETTY, THEY'RE $4800.

YOU AND I HAVE HAD THE JOY

OF ASKING GOD YEARS AGO,

"HELP US TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS.

PLEASE, DEAR GOD."

AND HE ANSWERED OUR PRAYER,

BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY

IN OUR HEART TO DO IT.

I BELIEVE THAT OUR VIEWERS,

THERE ARE SOME OF YOU

THAT CAN DRILL A WELL.

THERE MAY BE SOME

WHO CAN DRILL MORE THAN ONE.

THANK GOD THERE ARE SOME

THAT DO THAT.

THERE IS SOME WHO CAN GIVE $1200

AND PRAY, "LORD, GIVE THREE MORE

THE ABILITY TO GIVE $1200

AND WE'LL HAVE A WELL."

OR $2400 AND PRAY FOR ONE

TO MATCH THAT.

SOME OF YOU CAN DRILL A WELL

BUT THERE ARE MANY WHO GIVE $48

AND THAT GIVES TEN PEOPLE WATER

FOR LIFE.

THE THING OUR VIEWERS

NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS

THE $48 THAT GIVES TEN PEOPLE

WATER FOR LIFE

OR THE $144 THAT GIVES 30,

THAT IS JUST AS IMPORTANT

AND PERHAPS MORE SO

EVEN THAN THOSE WHO GIVE

THE ENTIRE WELL

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY

THAT CAN DO THAT,

BUT MANY CAN GIVE $48.

Betty: THAT'S RIGHT, JAMES.

AND THIS SHOULD EXCITES US!

IT EXCITES JAMES AND ME.

WE LOVE GIVING OPPORTUNITY FOR

THESE FAMILIES, THESE CHILDREN.

YOU HEARD THE HEART

OF THAT MOTHER.

SHE KNOWS THE WATER IS BAD

BUT WHAT CAN SHE DO?

WELL, THIS IS THE ANSWER.

WE CAN GO IN

AND DRILL THESE WATER WELLS

AND GIVE THEM A CHOICE.

WHICH WOULD YOU THINK

THEY WOULD TAKE?

THE CLEAN WATER

OR THE MUDDY DISEASED WATER?

I KNOW! PLEASE HELP US

BE A PART OF DOING THIS.

James: WELL, WE KNOW JESUS SAID

IF YOU GIVE JUST A CUP

OF WATER IN MY NAME

YOU DON'T LOSE YOUR REWARD

AND YOU LET HIM DETERMINE

THE REWARD.

BUT AS FAR AS BETTY

AND I ARE CONCERNED

THE FACT THAT WE GAVE THE WATER

IS REWARD ENOUGH;

TO SEE A CHILD HAVE HEALTH

AND A CHANCE AT LIFE,

THAT'S REWARD ENOUGH.

WE'RE SENDING, BY THE WAY,

THESE BEAUTIFUL

LITTLE COFFEE MUGS.

ONE OF THEM REPRESENTS

THE CLEAN WATER; THE OTHER ONE,

OF COURSE, IT IS JUST TAN,

IT REPRESENTS THE CONTAMINATED,

BUT THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL

COFFEE MUGS.

YOU'LL ENJOY THEM.

BUT I THINK EVERY TIME

YOU USE THEM AND YOU WILL,

YOU'LL PRAY FOR PEOPLE

TO HAVE CLEAN WATER.

WE'RE ASKING YOU TO MAKE

THE BEST GIFT YOU CAN.

WE WANT TO SEND YOU THE BOOK,

BELIEVE THIS NOT THAT.

DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES,

BELIEVE THE TRUTH.

IF YOU'LL DRILL A WELL

OR GIVE A GIFT OF $1200 OR MORE

WE WANT TO SEND

THE BEAUTIFUL BRONZE,

"THE LION AND THE LAMB."

IT'S ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!

PLEASE RIGHT NOW

DIAL THAT NUMBER.

WE'RE GOING TO SEND YOU

SOME GIFTS TO BLESS YOU

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAKING

A GIFT THAT GIVES LIFE,

THAT GIVES THESE CHILDREN

AND THEIR FAMILIES A CHANCE.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT CALL.

IF YOU WANT TO GO ONLINE

LifeToday.org

USE YOUR BANKCARD

LIKE IT'S A CHECK.

FATHER, I PRAY

EVERY PERSON WATCHING,

PLEASE LORD, TOUCH THEIR HEART.

EVERY PERSON WATCHING

WILL GIVE SOMETHING.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

IN JESUS' NAME.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT CALL.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT GIFT.

Announcer: EVERY DAY MILLIONS OF CHILDREN ARE FORCED

TO MAKE A DREADFUL CHOICE: DRINK FILTHY, POLLUTED WATER

FILLED WITH DEADLY DISEASE OR DIE FROM THIRST.

NO CHILD SHOULD EVER BE FACED WITH THIS DECISION.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THERE IS A SOLUTION --

MISSION: WATER FOR LIFE IS ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING

AND VIABLE DEMONSTRATIONS OF GOD'S LOVE IN THE WORLD TODAY.

SUFFERING CAN END BECAUSE CLEAN WATER CHANGES EVERYTHING!

WITH YOUR GIFT TODAY WE WILL BEGIN DRILLING

350 NEW WATER WELLS FOR REMOTE VILLAGES IN 12 DIFFERENT NATIONS.

YOUR GIFT OF $24 WILL HELP PROVIDE CLEAN WATER FOR FIVE PEOPLE!

A GIFT OF $48 WILL HELP PROVIDE FOR 10 PEOPLE!

$72 WILL IMPACT 15 PEOPLE.

AND $144 WILL HELP PROVIDE FRESH, CLEAN DISEASE-FREE WATER

FOR 30 PEOPLE FOR A LIFETIME!

WITH YOUR GIFT BE SURE TO REQUEST, BELIEVE THIS NOT THAT

A BRAND-NEW TOPICAL BIBLE PROMISE BOOK

THAT WILL ENCOURAGE YOU IN EVERY AREA OF LIFE.

WITH YOUR GIFT OF $100 OR MORE

YOU MAY REQUEST OUR NEWLY RELEASED WATER FOR LIFE MUG SET,

A DAILY REMINDER OF THE CLEAN WATER

YOU MAKE POSSIBLE TO THOSE WHO THIRST.

ALSO PLEASE PRAYERFULLY CONSIDER A GIFT OF $1200

TO HELP PROVIDE WATER FOR 250 PEOPLE

OR A GIFT OF $4800 TO HELP SPONSOR A COMPLETE WELL.

AND BE SURE TO REQUEST THE 2012 COMMEMORATIVE BRONZE SCULPTURE,

"THE LAMB AND THE LION."

PLEASE CALL, WRITE, OR MAKE YOUR SECURE GIFT ONLINE TODAY!

James: THIS IS AN ABSOLUTELY

BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL BRONZE.

I LOVE THAT!

I CAN'T HELP BUT SAY,

I KNOW THE DAY WILL COME

WHEN THE LION WILL LIE DOWN

WITH THE LAMB

BUT RIGHT NOW

BETTY AND I ARE PRAYING

JAY AND I CAN HELP GET

THE ELEPHANT TO LIE DOWN

WITH THE DONKEY.

WOULDN'T THAT BE REFRESHING?

[Laughter]

I WANT YOU TO GET THE BOOK,

INDIVISIBLE .

IF YOU CARE ABOUT

THE DIRECTION OF OUR COUNTRY,

YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW TO PRAY

AND WHAT TO DO; I BELIEVE

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU

AS CLEAR A PICTURE

AS YOU COULD EVER ASK FOR.

I BELIEVE IT IS AN ANSWER.

I BELIEVE WHAT WE'VE PUT HERE

IS AN ANSWER TO YOUR PRAYERS

SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE

AN ANSWER TO JESUS' PRAYERS

THAT WE BE ONE,

PERFECTED IN UNITY,

AND THAT HIS WILL BE DONE.

WOULD YOU JOIN BETTY AND ME IN

SAYING THANKS TO JAY RICHARDS?

JAY, THANK YOU!

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING WITH US.

THANK ALL OF YOU

FOR WATCHING LIFE TODAY.

ENCOURAGE YOUR FRIENDS TO WATCH.

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

DRILLING WELLS!

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Announcer: FAITH, FAMILY, AND FREEDOM ARE UNDER ATTACK.

JAMES ROBISON AND JAY RICHARDS ENCOURAGE A DIVIDED AMERICA

TO STAND TOGETHER BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

INDIVISIBLE -- AVAILABLE NOW AT ONLINE AND RETAIL BOOKSTORES.

James: I'M EXCITED ABOUT COMING TO MANY AREAS OF OUR COUNTRY.

CHECK THE WEB SITE TO SEE WHEN AND IF WE'LL BE IN YOUR AREA.

THE INDIVISIBLE BOOK TOUR,

THIS IS THE WAY TO LEAD OUR GREAT NATION

OUT OF THE WILDERNESS BACK INTO THE LAND

OF BLESSING AND PROMISE.

DON'T MISS IT!

Announcer: JOIN US TOMORROW

AS SHEILA WALSH INTERVIEWS JAMES AND JAY RICHARDS

AS THEY CHALLENGE US TO BECOME ONE NATION

TRULY UNDER GOD.